Crystal Palace - when a string is not a string!

[dc9999]

For those of you that believe in reincarnation, I'm pretty sure Warren Cloud is the result of some strange mutant conglomeration involving the meshing of PT Barnum ("a sucker is born every minute"), Genghis CON (er..I mean "Khan"..) and Richard Nixon ("I am NOT a liar"!)

Bonus funds be damned....run away FAST people!

Or you can wind up like me - win $20 grand WITHOUT A BONUS - and have it stolen from you right under your nose!

[Casinomeister]

As far as I know, Warren Cloud has nothing to do with the Crystal Palace group anymore.

[dc9999]

Thanks for the update Bryan! When did this happen - and what were the circumstances (if you can disclose them....)

[kakata]

Well ive received an email from Crystal Palace yesterday....was signed by Oliver Curran.
Didnt I read that they are the same person?

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by kakata

Well ive received an email from Crystal Palace yesterday....was signed by Oliver Curran.
Didnt I read that they are the same person?

Most online casinos have a "figurehead" a "named" manager or someone who represents the casino. There are a number of reasons for this. For one, it's good business sense - you can have the "same" manager over a period of years even though several people fill the role. Another reason is that people simply don't want to use their real names.

"Oliver Curran" is the name for the casino manager. It's a fake name just like "Christine" from Cirrus casino was.

To start ragging on Oliver Curran would be like ragging on Ronald McDonald because you don't like their burgers. They aren't real people.

[dc9999]

I'm still intrigued that such an infamous operator like Warren Cloud has exited his operation with such little fanfare (or perhaps that's EXACTLY what we should have anticipated!) He was after all, the dominant maverick force with RTG correct?

Moreover, this is the second of two major upheavals in the RTG world (the first being the abolition of Montana Overseas Disputes) in the past two weeks. And in both instances, there was no advance warning....although with the Cloud move that's not really surprising...

Perhaps I'm not the best person to gauge this given my ongoing dispute with this group,,,,but it does appear to me that a recent spike in "questionable" and suspect player interactions has taken place in the last 2-3 weeks with some big $$ amounts involved. It goes beyond the Crystalisle Group (that's I guess their new name according to their website), but it most definitely features many RTG licensees.

That's about all I can comment on for the moment ,,,,but it goes without saying..HEADS UP!

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by dc9999

I'm still intrigued that such an infamous operator like Warren Cloud has exited his operation with such little fanfare (or perhaps that's EXACTLY what we should have anticipated!) He was after all, the dominant maverick force with RTG correct?

Moreover, this is the second of two major upheavals in the RTG world (the first being the abolition of Montana Overseas Disputes) in the past two weeks. And in both instances, there was no advance warning....although with the Cloud move that's not really surprising...:

I wouldn't give him that much credit as being so dominant. As far as I know he sold the business - to whom? I don't know - it was a private deal.

Ownership doesn't make too much difference on daily activities of a casino. It's the day to day operations/management that affect players.

Montana was not abolished. Montana was being run by RTGs master licensor and another company is taking this over. It's in a "pause" mode right now. And will be until they get this set up.

[dc9999]

Do you know if Hastings is reviewing the Montana Overseas archives - or is this yet another RTG "reset" and we're back to square one?

MADDENING!!

[Casinomeister]

Please read my PM. Thanks!

I got this too. I am not a big gambler but on the RSVS the minimum bet is $1 not the usual 20c and 40c, unless you reduce lines. Needless to say it disappeared in less than 20 minutes.