Giantvegas wont pay $4879 in winnings

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by spearmaster

The terms and conditions at other casinos are irrelevant. The only thing that counts is whether or not you met the terms and conditions in force at the time of your cashout at Giant Vegas.

If you can conclusively prove that the terms and conditions did NOT forbid roulette and render any cashout null and void, then you have a pretty good case, except if the casino proves that you broke some other condition, which is apparently what Casinomeister is referring to.

What Spear said is pretty much it.

Originally Posted by Buck

This is a RTG and your need to go through Montana. This casino was linked with Kiss that went out of business.

Not quite. You should read this:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...as-vs-rtg.html

[paul1]

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

What Spear said is pretty much it.


Not quite. You should read this:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...as-vs-rtg.html

Anyone else see the irony in point #25 when RTG locked the CASINO out? Sorry, I couldn't help but smile a little bit upon reading that.

[Jon-Jon]

Oh dear...

I replied on receipt of the mail, then investigated and closed the matter 4 days later.

casinomeister has the same info, and I consider the matter closed, from my side at least.

[kreome]

Bryan and also Jon Jon seems to be convinced I am not deserve to get paid and I do not understand the hostility to winner from their side.

I played by the rules risked my money in the roulette and then wager the full amount in Tri card poker.

The terms never stated you can not play roulette for your fun and not for the wagering requirements and the casino never denied that , they just told me that I used their bonus and amplified it in such a way they do not like and pointed me as a bonus abuser.

I have a screenshot of the terms which state clearly that roulette does not count towards the wagering, It is almost $4500 which is 45 bills of 100 USD which the casino keep for himself I am not going to give up, I was totally stiifed by them and if you think my case is not true please tell me why.

What playtech has to say. Bryan implied that playtech has some secret stuff well, do you really believe playtech and their stories, they do not care about african palace and indio why would they care about me getting paid by this group.

That is how it works, if u win big the casino says oohh there is 4500 winner which is about 30 times the bonus we gave not to pay him is like not paying 20 times bonus winners, this should not be allowed by the industry.

[caruso]

I must've missed this thread.

Originally Posted by kreome

Bryan and also Jon Jon seems to be convinced I am not deserve to get paid and I do not understand the hostility to winner from their side.

I am not surprised by "Jon-Jon"'s comment, gven the extraordinary arrogance of the "oh dear" comment above.

The terms never stated you can not play roulette for your fun and not for the wagering requirements and the casino never denied that , they just told me that I used their bonus and amplified it in such a way they do not like and pointed me as a bonus abuser.

I have a screenshot of the terms which state clearly that roulette does not count towards the wagering, It is almost $4500 which is 45 bills of 100 USD which the casino keep for himself I am not going to give up, I was totally stiifed by them and if you think my case is not true please tell me why.

If the terms say that roulette simply "does not count", then you are owed. Why is anyone disputing this? And their excuse is not that you broke the terms, but that you "used the bonus and AMPLIFIED it"??

You are clearly owed your full cashout on the basis of the information in this thread.

When Giant Vegas tried to slow-pay me a $1400 cashout until it would have been worth nothing to me other than a contribution to my funeral expenses, I had a webby friend of mine intercede (gotta keep the workload off Bryan occasionally, lol); if you get stuck on this, I will very happily put you his way, though I don't know his current relationship with them since they moved to Playtech. I'm not sure if he still carries them.

Hopefully, you'll be paid as a result of this thread, however. You are clearly owed.

[kreome]

I am trying to attach my screenshot but get a message that the picture length is too long, how do you reduce the side using paint for example

[Dirk Diggler]

So Jon-Jon, you post over at winnersonline basically claiming your casino's are trustworthy and now you are refusing to play a player who appears to have followed your terms and conditions?

Are you saying they didn't, if so what rule did they break?

[Dirk Diggler]

Just been posted at WOL that the player apparently could have three accounts which is the reason for the confiscation.

Can you clarify Jon-Jon?

[Jon-Jon]

I apologise if my oh dear comment seemed arrogant, as I am not and have never, ever been accused by an affiliate of being so

I am a consultant to betrev, and cannot post more than what I have as this matter was viewed as closed based on information that would prejudice both the player and the casinos if published, and there is no reason to go down that road. All I can say is that there are three accounts with exactly the same play, opened on the same day (along with other warning signs that they employ wrt fraud) and that is reason enough. The casino was also kind enough to refund any money and offer another free bonus. There will be no gain by the player and no change in the decision should he continue this attack, and this will be my and the casinos last communication on this matter

I do know that the casino has this as the only (according to my own research) outstanding issue since they moved over to playtech - which is good going, and they are definitely on track.

If you look at amaser.com this will explain my bio, and should betrev or its casios not perform, then I will not put my name to them and remove them as current clients - this is not the case, but you can be assured that I will not associate myself with shady operators, as I have been exposed to that before - this is your peace of mind.

I really hope that this is ok an explanation, and please feel free to pm or mail me directly should you require anything else - I will be glad to help...

All the best

[jetset]

I realise that this site is still a work in progress, Jon-Jon but you need to get Spell Check going asap!