Do all online bingo sites have house players?

[whatwedontknow]

once a liar always a liar.....carry on

[Gots]

once a lier always a lier.....carry on

Yes, ty. BTW, it's liar...carry on.

This is a subject that gets thrown aroun a lot, but to this day i have not yet seen any solid proof! I am not saying it does not happen. What I am saying is that I haven't seen any solid proof of it. A winners list of the same names is not valid proof. It just is not. If sites did create house players I am sure they would go to greater ways to cover it up than displaying it for all to see on the winners pages.

I think that the ability to create house/ghost players would depend on the software itself.

Before I get leapt upon by herds of angry people, I am not saying they don't exist equally I am not saying they do - just that I find it hard to believe that sites would be that obvious. I suppose I am somewhat playing devil's advocate.

Final thought: I also play land based bingo regularly. I don't win very often, others do. Does that mean that my local bingo hall has house players too?

This was a great post. Too many of the same names you see going forum to forum complaining about house players have admitted they lost money. It seems they can't accept the fact they gambled their money and lost. They have to have someone to blame and can not hold themselves accountable for their actions, so they claim foul by the sites.

What are they claiming? Someone wins more often then they do, so then the site must be cheating. All the time thinking that they spent so much money, when in fact they've probably spent a fraction of the amount of the person they are claiming is a house player.

If the sites wanted to cheat, they sure as hell could easily since there are no regulations in place, but no owner in their right mind would keep the same made up player name winning over and over to draw attention to it....that just makes no sense.

Are there house players? Who knows, but just like kaufman, I've not seen one shred of proof or evidence that house players exist, just whiners that need to blame someone.

[BingoT]

Yes, ty. BTW, it's liar...carry on.
This was a great post. Too many of the same names you see going forum to forum complaining about house players have admitted they lost money. It seems they can't accept the fact they gambled their money and lost. They have to have someone to blame and can not hold themselves accountable for their actions, so they claim foul by the sites.

What are they claiming? Someone wins more often then they do, so then the site must be cheating. All the time thinking that they spent so much money, when in fact they've probably spent a fraction of the amount of the person they are claiming is a house player.

If the sites wanted to cheat, they sure as hell could easily since there are no regulations in place, but no owner in their right mind would keep the same made up player name winning over and over to draw attention to it....that just makes no sense.

Are there house players? Who knows, but just like kaufman, I've not seen one shred of proof or evidence that house players exist, just whiners that need to blame someone.

Oh my I have to say THIS IS THE TRUTH
I say this time & Time again
Gots You Got it
Watch out if you go to them they will walk on you if you want to say your 2 cents

[I BEEN THERE]

I just have to add my 2 cents here since it does appear to be the appropriate place.. Would you consider anyone taking free BBS from a CM because they are friends a house player ? I am sure many of us don't like to play against someone receiving extra benefits because they are roomates and good friends. I suppose that does not count huh ? It is highly unlikely this same behavior does not happen at most if not all sites. Nobody likes to lose but against those odds no wonder there are so many whiners. If sites would clean up their act there would sure be a lot less complaining.

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...bingoland.html

I BEEN THERE

[dominique]

Hmmm, what a collection of posters.

Liars, half wits, dumbasses....

Geez guys, can we stay away form all the insults and discuss something here?

1. Of course there are house players. Every multi player online game starts out with house players.

2. Like ladyholdem said, some people play all day long investing lots of money and get a lot of wins that way. Do they actually end up ahead? Probably occasionally, but you need to consider the investment here.

3. Sorry if I offended someone by thinking they were an emissary of BPU.

And, finally, a quote:

If the sites wanted to cheat, they sure as hell could easily since there are no regulations in place, but no owner in their right mind would keep the same made up player name winning over and over to draw attention to it....that just makes no sense.

Exactly.

[winbig]

My definition of a bad loser:

Someone that can't believe they keep losing; so they try and put the blame on someone/something else to justify their losses.

Honestly though....isn't the "house player" topic played out too much already? Cut your losses, quit beating a dead horse, and move on. If you think a site has a bunch of house players and hardly any legit players, quit playing there and find a reputable site to play at.

Constantly bitching about it isn't going to change their business practices, so what good does it do?

[Gots]

I just have to add my 2 cents here since it does appear to be the appropriate place.. Would you consider anyone taking free BBS from a CM because they are friends a house player ? I am sure many of us don't like to play against someone receiving extra benefits because they are roomates and good friends. I suppose that does not count huh ? It is highly unlikely this same behavior does not happen at most if not all sites. Nobody likes to lose but against those odds no wonder there are so many whiners. If sites would clean up their act there would sure be a lot less complaining.

You can bring up bingoland all you like. It still holds that both jcn and myself had an unfair advantage over other players, but that didnt make us house players. A house player is someone that plays for the house. If they win they can't, by their choosing, cash out. Likewise any pots won with those bbs were won in cash, not bbs. There was never a restriction on either one of use that we couldn't cash out if those bbs turned into cash.

Unfair advantage, sure. House player, no.

[Redponyfan]

Ok first let me answer a couple of questions and or accusations about my posts. No I am not hooked up with any bingo watchdog site, the only forum I belong to or have ever posted at is here. Begining to think posting here was a bad idea. No I am not a bad loser who can't get over the fact that I gambled and lost. I am mature enough to understand why it is called gambling and at online bingo I have had wins and losses, thats the nature of the beast. I know there is a very real risk of losing my money just don't try and cheat me out of it. All I ask is a level playing field , house advantage taken into consideration.

Yes I have read other posts here about house players and I was not trying to duplicate those posts,i.e. Zany bingo. Only to add my own observations for the possible benefit of others. As I said this is the only forum I belong to so I am not running around posting at a bunch of different forums. As far as all sites having house players to draw other people in? Isn't that called being a schill ? and woouldn't people already have to be logged into a site to see these schills, so wouldn't that mean they were going to play at that site anyway, schills or not ? maybe my logic is a little fuzzy on this but I don't think so. Anyway, so much for my attempt to post something helpful. I guess once a subject has been discussed it shouldn't be brought up again, it will just fix itself and fade away. I know this is my last comment on it.

[dominique]

Begining to think posting here was a bad idea.

No it's not, you just happened to step into something you could not have known about.

Once it was settled you were not yet another incarnation of some previous posters, BingoT and I apologized.

I don't think the remainder of the comments were written with you in mind, but were general comments and had to do with previous threads.

Like I said, you just happened to step into the middle of something here.

I hope you will continue to post and ignore what has happened so far, it really had nothing to do with you personally.

BTW, welcome to Casinomeister, Redponyfan!

[BingoT]

Redponyfan your input is a big help to many.
And please your a great person and I say speak your pease and don't mind what others say. The old saying is "In one ear and out the other ear"
And you did find a great forum here.Bryan is a great person to know and if you run into anything dirty he will help you all the way too. And I can say most here that post here will too.
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