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Old 26th October 2009, 03:42 AM
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See now, here - you say this is from ages ago; do I understand correctly (from another thread, I think the Winner Screenshots) that RTG has changed the rules, such that this 2000x win would not be paid today, and would be limited to a maximum of 1000x bet?
No a 1000x bet maximum cashout were never on any RTG casino, but since he plays with a $1 bet per spin he could make the highest win on one spin/bonus round of $2,500 instead of $2,000 which was before.

now the highest payout is increased to 50,000x bet instead of 40,000x betline.

on my screenshot with the 5 crowns (expanding wilds) 1 winline was $200 so x 20 this should be 4,000 but it is capped by the maximum payout per betline, so if i've played only with 5 lines on $0,02 per betline (which is 0,10 cent) i had won the same amount of $1,000 because the highest payout is my betline (2 cents) x 50,000 which is exactly 1,000 dollars

that#s the problem on the new slot triple twister, which have fixed 50 bet lines, because the highest win on this is only $500 (1 cent per betline x 50,000), so you have to play $1 (2 cent per betline) for winning $1,000 (max win)

i really like this new slot, but the risk is much higher and the maximum win is only 1,000x the full bet, because you can't choose less than 50 bet lines, so maybe RTG should really change their rules and makes it depend on either the full bet amount, or much better, they delete this (in my opinion) silly rule, because i had never seen such a rule on any another casino, except on RTG casinos
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tripple twister

I was thinking the same thing with this high variance slot. No doubt you can win a nice amount playing the min, but you can never really reach its true payout potential no matter what you play. In fact you simply cannot on most Reel Series slots.

Why have a max payout on a particular slot, when you really can't win it? Why not put in the paytable the true win at a max bet, rather than some unreachable payout if you hit everything available? Is RTG the only software with this sort of max per line payout?
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Old 26th October 2009, 04:32 AM
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on my screenshot with the 5 crowns (expanding wilds) 1 winline was $200 so x 20 this should be 4,000 but it is capped by the maximum payout per betline, so if i've played only with 5 lines on $0,02 per betline (which is 0,10 cent) i had won the same amount of $1,000 because the highest payout is my betline (2 cents) x 50,000 which is exactly 1,000 dollars

that#s the problem on the new slot triple twister, which have fixed 50 bet lines, because the highest win on this is only $500 (1 cent per betline x 50,000), so you have to play $1 (2 cent per betline) for winning $1,000 (max win)

i really like this new slot, but the risk is much higher and the maximum win is only 1,000x the full bet, because you can't choose less than 50 bet lines, so maybe RTG should really change their rules and makes it depend on either the full bet amount, or much better, they delete this (in my opinion) silly rule, because i had never seen such a rule on any another casino, except on RTG casinos
Vegasbum is a regular Winner's Screenshots member who bets less than max paylines always, and not just at RTG.

Paydirt was the first slot we started see many capped wins. And I think a lot of players may have figured out that less than max lines might be optimal strategy (not that I've had any capped wins personally).

RTG has avoided this in the game Triple Twister, and since lines bet are fixed, I'm sure it is easier to factor into a paytable and RTP.
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I was thinking the same thing with this high variance slot. No doubt you can win a nice amount playing the min, but you can never really reach its true payout potential no matter what you play. In fact you simply cannot on most Reel Series slots.

Why have a max payout on a particular slot, when you really can't win it? Why not put in the paytable the true win at a max bet, rather than some unreachable payout if you hit everything available? Is RTG the only software with this sort of max per line payout?
I don't totally understand all these formulas, except that I think I can say with confidence that capping ANY payout would impact payout percentages, correct, just as random jackpots do? If I recall correctly, some RTG authority here on CM stated that the RTG payout percentages are calculated to include occurrences of Random Jackpot scores. So I guess it would be interesting to ask the casinos who cap max payout/spin if their stated payout percentages account for this diminished expected max payout? (I hope I'm making sense here, lol.)
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I don't totally understand all these formulas, except that I think I can say with confidence that capping ANY payout would impact payout percentages, correct, just as random jackpots do? If I recall correctly, some RTG authority here on CM stated that the RTG payout percentages are calculated to include occurrences of Random Jackpot scores. So I guess it would be interesting to ask the casinos who cap max payout/spin if their stated payout percentages account for this diminished expected max payout? (I hope I'm making sense here, lol.)
Well, the RTGs that have updated the lobbies the paytables show what percentage of the bet goes to the RJ. They just have to factor in the seed money and the rest of the money comes from player bets. Much like progressives at land based casinos.

Also, I have seen capped payouts on machines at land based casinos, but I've never seen one that reached it's cap. Or even close.

Certainly nothing you would hit on a single bet with max bet during a bonus round.

Although I'm not sure about 100 lions...I think where I play if you hit a full screen of lions during the bonus round, the game stops and you don't get the rest of your spins. If anyone REALLY cares, pm me and I'll look during my next B&M visit (may not be the same as your B&M's payouts).
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Well, the RTGs that have updated the lobbies the paytables show what percentage of the bet goes to the RJ. They just have to factor in the seed money and the rest of the money comes from player bets. Much like progressives at land based casinos.

Also, I have seen capped payouts on machines at land based casinos, but I've never seen one that reached it's cap. Or even close.

Certainly nothing you would hit on a single bet with max bet during a bonus round.

Although I'm not sure about 100 lions...I think where I play if you hit a full screen of lions during the bonus round, the game stops and you don't get the rest of your spins. If anyone REALLY cares, pm me and I'll look during my next B&M visit (may not be the same as your B&M's payouts).
Informative - thanks.
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Actually sorry to be a spoil sport but at $9 a press, that means this total win is only 192xbet.
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Actually sorry to be a spoil sport but at $9 a press, that means this total win is only 192xbet.
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