Did Governor Sarah Palin Have A Secret Affair ?

[RobWin]

Did Governor Sarah Palin Have A Secret Affair ? Details Leaked !! Family member Goes Under The Lie Detector Test !! Sarah Palin's Truth

 

[LaurieJim]

oh no!!!!!!! say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!........... laurie

 

[suzecat]

oh no!!!!!!! say it aint so!!!!!!!!!!........... laurie

It ain't so...................


There are real people in the world who actually believe everything in print has to be the truth................and there are others who put crap in print and laugh all the way to the bank.............ain't it a crazy world we live in!

 

[NoMouthToScream]

I think the big point is being dismissed here. The point of the youtube video is the double standard taken when John Edwards was reported by the National Inquirer to have an affair. Everyone immediately believed it and it must have been true.

But when the story about Palin having an affair comes out, it's being dismissed as false because it's the National Inquirer.

Pretty hypocritical.

 

[GamTrak]

and there are others who put crap in print and laugh all the way to the bank.............ain't it a crazy world we live in!

That is true suzecat.

I've had a stalker spreading lies on the internet about GamTrak for over six years now and still doing so to this day so I personally dispise people that spread unfounded rumors and lies, without any proof, but I pray for them anyway.

That affair rumor may be false, but the Palin's do hang out with a group that hates the US (the Alaska Independence Party). To me that is just as bad as cheating on your spouse. Link Removed

"Keep up the good work," Sarah Palin told members of the Alaskan Independence Party in a videotaped speech to their convention six months ago in Fairbanks. She wished the party luck on what she called its "inspiring convention."

The Alaskan Independence Party, founded in 1978, initially promoted "the Alaskan independence movement." But now, according to its website, "its primary goal is merely a vote on secession."

McCain campaign spokesman Tucker Bounds said Tuesday that Palin did not support splitting Alaska off from the rest of the country. He sidestepped the question of whether she favored a statewide vote on secession.

 

[NoMouthToScream]

That Alaskan Independence Party story is pretty damning but it steers us from the real issues.

But look when stories like Bill Ayers are put into the media, Obama is called out as a terrorist or involved with terrorists.

Another example of a double standard.

Does Sarah Palin's ties to a group that wants Alaska to leave America by whatever means necessary, make her a secessionist?

 

[GamTrak]

Does Sarah Palin's ties to a group that wants Alaska to leave America by whatever means necessary, make her a secessionist?

Personally, IMO when your husband has been a member for years and you speak at their meetings as recent as four months ago then I'd say that makes her a secessionist as well as a hate monger.

Her new "pro-america" statement is raising some eyebrows for sure. I'd like to know where the anti-america places here in the the US that she is refering to. :notworthy

 

[lots0]

Does Sarah Palin's ties to a group that wants Alaska to leave America by whatever means necessary, make her a secessionist?

It makes Sara Palin and her husband TRAITORS to our Country.

 

[LaurieJim]

I think the big point is being dismissed here. The point of the youtube video is the double standard taken when John Edwards was reported by the National Inquirer to have an affair. Everyone immediately believed it and it must have been true.

But when the story about Palin having an affair comes out, it's being dismissed as false because it's the National Inquirer.
Pretty hypocritical.

when ever i do buy one of those rag mags, after glancing through it , its used for 3 things in my house, could be 4 if i ever get desperate (1) something to amuse me and laugh about (2) line my bird's cage with (3) use it to clean my out door windows with (4) if the world goes to hell in a hand basket and i run out of toilet paper or tissues ect, i'll have something to wipe with........................laurie

 

[lots0]

Sad part of it is...
The National Enquirer is now the best independent political investigative newspaper in America.

No other "News" source inside the USA has hired as many investigative reporters to cover the elected officials and candidates.... That is a truly sad state of affairs for journalism in America.

Do I believe the Enquirer? Well I didn't want to believe it when it was Edwards (I really liked the guy), but it was true.... Just like it is now with Palin.

I would also like to point out that anyone that plots and conspires to separate or divide the United States in anyway, is in fact a Traitor and should be treated like one.

 

[winbig]

(4) if the world goes to hell in a hand basket and i run out of toilet paper or tissues ect, i'll have something to wipe with........................laurie

Can you spare a square?

 

[Jasminebed]

Who Cares?

Please, I realize I am a Canadian, and perhaps should not express my opinion, but your choice of leadership will affect my country as well. We just elected our own idiot.

Who cares if she had an affair? You are not marrying her, you are looking for someone to lead your country. She, as VP, would be largely responsible for the diplomatic duties for this country, a woman who has no idea of world politics. She is not tactful, a trait to be desired when dealing with other countries. She is a warmonger, fiscally naive, and not very experienced politically. And when Americans vote a ticket, there is always a possiblity that the VP will be the leader of your country.

My 2 cents CDN. Currently worth 1.7 cents US

 

[GamTrak]

Please, I realize I am a Canadian, and perhaps should not express my opinion, but your choice of leadership will affect my country as well. We just elected our own idiot.

My 2 cents CDN. Currently worth 1.7 cents US

Personally I value your opinion as well as others around the world. You definately have a grasp of what is at stake if McPalin gets in office.

 

[LaurieJim]

Personally I value your opinion as well as others around the world. You definately have a grasp of what is at stake if McPalin gets in office.

lets see, where to begin with on obama, changed his name to barrack from barry, why, wasnt barry good enough? did attend a muslim school in the middle east when younger, another lets see, dont some of those muslims dis- like us? has been in senate for 4 years, he is a real political pro, oh but dont forget, he was a community leader, lets give him a thumbs up for that one, if you can lead a large in state community, you can lead a country..wrong.........how many times did he just say present when voting? but switched his vote several times, to my understanding?...........quit a church , wasnt that the one lead by that radical, hate filling pastor? now on the better side of obama, he is a charmer, snappy dresser, great smile, young, nice looking, gives a great scripted speech...................i have given this alot of thought and have decided for whom i will be voting for, thats my right and my duty as an american and i wont change my mind.i have read so much negative things in these political threads, people bashing a sitting u.s president, he has let us down, i agree, we are pissed as a nation and by all rights we should be, but if folks are looking for a fast fix on this, its not gonna happen with whom ever is elected and if they even get a second term imho, we are in a crisis here and its gonna take a leader, would McCain been my first pick? no............not by a long shot, im voting for him not as another republican but as for someone who has more experiance than obama...............laurie

 

[GamTrak]

Well I'll throw my two cents in.

lets see, where to begin with on obama, changed his name to barrack from barry, why, wasnt barry good enough?
So no one is allowed to change their name?

did attend a muslim school in the middle east when younger, another lets see, dont some of those muslims dis- like us?
It's not good to group folks. You have some whites that hate blacks and vise-versa. It's like that worldwide.

has been in senate for 4 years, he is a real political pro, oh but dont forget, he was a community leader, lets give him a thumbs up for that one, if you can lead a large in state community, you can lead a country..wrong.........how many times did he just say present when voting? but switched his vote several times, to my understanding?...........
It's not YOUR job to judge the actions of others.

quit a church , wasnt that the one lead by that radical, hate filling pastor?
How many White Radicals has McPalin hung around? You bother to look that up?

now on the better side of obama, he is a charmer, snappy dresser, great smile, young, nice looking, gives a great scripted speech...................
I agree! Obama is hot and sexy!

i have given this alot of thought and have decided for whom i will be voting for, thats my right and my duty as an american and i wont change my mind.
I don't think anyone would disagree with that.

i have read so much negative things in these political threads, people bashing
As far as I know Palin has done the ONLY hate-mongering starting October 4th. She has brought out every GOP idiot in the US and YouTube has the proof.

a sitting u.s president, he has let us down, i agree, we are pissed as a nation and by all rights we should be, but if folks are looking for a fast fix on this, its not gonna happen with whom ever is elected and if they even get a second term imho, we are in a crisis here and its gonna take a leader, would McCain been my first pick? no............not by a long shot, im voting for him not as another republican but as for someone who has more experiance than obama...............laurie
Good luck with that. He seems out of touch to me, but different strokes for different folks.

 

[LaurieJim]

Well I'll throw my two cents in.

i will see that 2 cents and raise you, i stand by what i said, i knew it would be picked apart like that, infact , i counted on it...................call!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[RobWin]

LOL !! You Ladies are funny tonite...guess who's on Saturday Night Live tonight ?? That's correct...the bimbo herself...

Just for shites & giggles...and I never would wish anything bad on McCain, but could you imagine this country being ran by her if something were to happen to McCain...and she also sits down with one of the foreign leaders to actually discuss foreign policy...OMG

 

[anniemac]

I'll throw in my 2 cents to this conversation.

I want to know how a junior senator who nobody even knew existed until this year managed to get the Democratic nomination over the likes of Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. Who is the power behind his run for president?

Do I particularly like McCain? Not really. But neither do I like Barack Obama. If I had to chose between the four of them to run the country, I would chose Joe Biden. But we didn't get him, we got someone nobody knew anything about. I think the Democrates chose him for the same reason that the Republicans chose Sarah Palin. Needed a candidate to fit the purpose. For my money Michelle Obama would work better for me for Pres.

If anyone thinks that things are going to change, you are going to be sadly surprised. A sitting president can only do what the Senate and the House of Representatives allow him to do. So if the Democrates are the majority then guess who's running the hen house. It's going to be the same old song, just with a possibly different band.

My son is a Marine and he spent 7 months in Iraq. I had to send him socks, tee shirts, food, as well as shampoo, deodorant and Frebreeze because his sleeping bag stunk so bad he couldn't sleep. Do you actually think I am going to vote for someone who voted against funding the military? Is this country in such sad shape that we can't even furnish socks for the guys that are putting their lives on the line for us? I would vote for Mickey Mouse if he would assure me that the war (all of them) would end immediately and all of our soldiers would be coming home.

Now as for who is sleeping or has slept with who, I don't give a big rat's behind. Is there anyone who actually thinks that it matters? Didn't with Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy and it won't with Sarah Palin.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. It is still the USA even if we are told where we can spend our money.

 

[GamTrak]

If anyone thinks that things are going to change, you are going to be sadly surprised.

I guess we have to wait and see.

 

[GamTrak]

could you imagine this country being ran by her if something were to happen to McCain...and she also sits down with one of the foreign leaders to actually discuss foreign policy...OMG

Nope, actually the thought makes me very uneasy!

She has already been exposed as the type to "Abuse" her power and that alone IMO is a warning sign and possible indication of how she would rule as Commander and Chief!

 

[LaurieJim]

Nope, actually the thought makes me very uneasy!

She has already been exposed as the type to [B]"Abuse" her power [/B]and that alone IMO is a warning sign and possible indication of how she would rule as Commander and Chief!

oh gam , geeze your smarter than that they all (politicians) have always abused the powers intrusted to them by the american people in all forms of the goverment...... nite nite all.........laurie

 

[RobWin]

My son is a Marine and he spent 7 months in Iraq. I had to send him socks, tee shirts, food, as well as shampoo, deodorant and Frebreeze because his sleeping bag stunk so bad he couldn't sleep. Do you actually think I am going to vote for someone who voted against funding the military? Is this country in such sad shape that we can't even furnish socks for the guys that are putting their lives on the line for us?

"Against Funding Our Troops" ???

The claim that Obama "voted against funding our troops" is true. He did, once, last year. But that's hardly the whole story....

Prior to the sole 2007 vote cited by the McCain campaign as justification for this TV ad that's running, Obama voted for all war-funding bills that had come before the Senate since 2005, when he was sworn in. So did all other Senate Democrats, except for a few absences. As recently as April 2007, Obama voted in favor of funding U.S. troops again, but this time Democrats added a non-binding call to withdraw them from Iraq. McCain (who was absent for the vote) urged the president to veto that funding measure, because of the withdrawal language. President Bush did veto it, and McCain applauded Bush's veto. Based on those facts, it would be literally true to say that "McCain urged a veto of funding for our troops." But that would be oversimplified to the point of being seriously misleading, which is exactly the problem with McCain's ad.

Furthermore, by saying that "John McCain has always supported our troops," the ad insinuates that Obama doesn't.

And if you really want to know why the government can't afford to buy our military men and women proper equipment then you should watch this video here [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6621486727392146155"]Iraq For Sale[/ame]

Have you ever heard the names: Halliburton, Blackwater & KBR, well that is exactly where most of the military funding is going, to these companies and others like them...

Remember what you see in the media is all about "Misdirection" ...what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes !!

 

[GamTrak]

oh gam , geeze your smarter than that they all (politicians) have always abused the powers intrusted to them by the american people in all forms of the goverment...... nite nite all.........laurie

LOL There you go 'grouping' folks again.

I don't know that I necessarily believe that Laurie, but then I could be kidding myself.

I have faith that not all of us or any one group of people are immoral as a whole. Have a good night.

 

[suzecat]

Link Removed (invalid URL)

Although from 2003, it's still an interesting read on the Cheney/Halliburton tie.

 

[anniemac]

"Remember what you see in the media is all about "Misdirection" ...what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes !!"

My point exactly.

 

[LaurieJim]

Remember what you see in the media is all about "Misdirection" ...what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes !!

that i agree with you on rob and annie 100%...........................best statement yet!!!!!!!!!!
.......................laurie

 

[winbig]

Remember what you see in the media is all about "Misdirection" ...what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes !!

You know, I read about that in a magazine once. It must be true!

 

[RobWin]

You know, I read about that in a magazine once. It must be true!

You must have been reading about Harry Houdini then...he was the master of the "Misdirection" Illusion !!

 

[lots0]

You must have been reading about Harry Houdini then...he was the master of the "Misdirection" Illusion !!

Well Houdini was the OLD master of misdirection...

The new masters of misdirection are the American News Media.

When was the last time you saw a TV News story about Iraq?
Do we still have troops there? Are our troops still fighting and dieing?
Well if they are, you would never know it from the news media in this country...

 

[RobWin]

"Against Funding Our Troops" ???

The claim that Obama "voted against funding our troops" is true. He did, once, last year. But that's hardly the whole story....

Prior to the sole 2007 vote cited by the McCain campaign as justification for this TV ad that's running, Obama voted for all war-funding bills that had come before the Senate since 2005, when he was sworn in. So did all other Senate Democrats, except for a few absences. As recently as April 2007, Obama voted in favor of funding U.S. troops again, but this time Democrats added a non-binding call to withdraw them from Iraq. McCain (who was absent for the vote) urged the president to veto that funding measure, because of the withdrawal language. President Bush did veto it, and McCain applauded Bush's veto. Based on those facts, it would be literally true to say that "McCain urged a veto of funding for our troops." But that would be oversimplified to the point of being seriously misleading, which is exactly the problem with McCain's ad.

Furthermore, by saying that "John McCain has always supported our troops," the ad insinuates that Obama doesn't.

And if you really want to know why the government can't afford to buy our military men and women proper equipment then you should watch this video here

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Have you ever heard the names: Halliburton, Blackwater & KBR, well that is exactly where most of the military funding is going, to these companies and others like them...

Remember what you see in the media is all about "Misdirection" ...what the eyes see and the ears hear, the mind believes !!

Well Houdini was the OLD master of misdirection...

The new masters of misdirection are the American News Media.

When was the last time you saw a TV News story about Iraq?
Do we still have troops there? Are our troops still fighting and dieing?
Well if they are, you would never know it from the news media in this country...

Exactly Lots0, that's why I said what I did above....

 

[suzecat]

Well Houdini was the OLD master of misdirection...

The new masters of misdirection are the American News Media.

When was the last time you saw a TV News story about Iraq?
Do we still have troops there? Are our troops still fighting and dieing?
Well if they are, you would never know it from the news media in this country...

Hummm, well that's probably because the "troops" have been substituted by non-government civilians (employees of Blackwater) who are not required to follow the same rules the troops have to follow............but just to keep it all real for the media, an occasional slaughter of US troops takes place so we don't wonder who is really fighting this war.

oh, and the current master of illusion is Criss Angel.............

 

[LaurieJim]

an email from a dear friend / just info/ how ironic ?

HELLO EVERYONE: IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!

SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED ON THE AIR THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.

HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED
THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know), HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES. HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS TH AT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.

HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA !! THIS
IS SERIOUS, EVERYONE, THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY............just thought i would pass it along, as this candidate looks like he may be our future president, and i for one will be watching................laurie

 

[GamTrak]

WOW I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT SEAN HAS TO SAY.

 

[GamTrak]

What is the breaking news suppose to be? Poor Sean is so desparate for attention that's is sad.

The Ayers stuff is so old it's in black n white. LMAOO Seven minutes in to the program and all they are talking about is what Bill Ayers did.

Reverand Wright - So what if he has issues with America so do a lot of us! So what he is racist so are a lot of other folks! No one can judge what others do or know what that man, his family or relatives has experienced due to segragation and racism! Last time I checked we all have FREEDOM of speech even though some of us would rather not hear it.

With the current economic crisis I'm sure you can find other folks that would like to blow something up and curse our government officials or worse.

More Importantly (you may have missed it), but we learned all of this crap during the primaries and it looks like the last ditch effort to bring it to our attention again is not working.

It's 27 minutes into the program and still NO breaking new so I'm going to turn to Amazing Race 13, Pick up Artist and then Charm School!

 

[winbig]

I stopped at:

FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY

 

[RobWin]

Poor Sean is really desperate and grasping at straws now since McCain/Palin are sinking faster now in the polls than the Titanic did in the north atlantic...LOL

That boy never ceases to amaze me with his far right wing rhetoric, the republican party can absolutely do no wrong in Sean's eyes...that is the exact reason you can not believe anything he says, he is not impartial at all and never has been...

Plus the fact he works for FAUX News !!

 

[LaurieJim]

you all have your opinions and i have mine, isnt this a wonderful country see you at the voting booths.....................laurie

 

[GamTrak]

you all have your opinions and i have mine, isnt this a wonderful country see you at the voting booths.....................laurie

Yep, that's true.

I'm voting EARLY via mail as soon as I get my ballet!

 

[The Dude]

And McCain's great great grandfather owned slaves:

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Can't we just go on and vote already? My brain hurts

 

[GamTrak]

Florida has EARLY voting today! Obama will also be speaking in Florida today!

 

[winbig]

Florida has EARLY voting today!

Maybe we'll have deja-vu all over again? Does 2000 ring a bell?

 

[GamTrak]

Maybe we'll have deja-vu all over again? Does 2000 ring a bell?

LOL God, I hope not!

Hey, here is another "Bimbo" that's a congressperson!

 

[LaurieJim]

LOL God, I hope not!

Hey, here is another "Bimbo" that's a congressperson!

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gam, i have really tried to see your side on all this but to call someone, anyone a "bimbo", please, no more name calling, its so undignified to any political side.............thanks , laurie

 

[GrandMaster]

Florida has EARLY voting today! Obama will also be speaking in Florida today!

Remember, vote early and often.

The Republicans are clearly desperate in West Virginia:

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[GamTrak]

gam, i have really tried to see your side on all this but to call someone, anyone a "bimbo", please, no more name calling, its so undignified to any political side.............thanks , laurie

EXCUSE me Laurie, but YOU don't tell me what to say or how to act! If YOU don't like what I type then use the Ignore button. If I want to use the word bimbo then (like I said) it's NOT for you to Judge! I'm not out to get the approval of you or anyone.

You haven't been a pillar of the community so get over yourself! If Bryan has a problem with my conduct then I'll wait for him to say so.

 

[winbig]

LOL God, I hope not!

Hey, here is another "Bimbo" that's a congressperson!

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Wow, I love people that go on national TV and can't even back up their claims.

 

[winbig]

Remember, vote early and often.

The Republicans are clearly desperate in West Virginia:

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In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated.

I love that many cell phones have cameras in them now. I'd love to catch my machine doing that come Nov. 4th.

but anyways:

More than 1,000 voters from 48 local precincts in Putnam County cast early ballots in the past three days, Wood said. Putnam County has 36,000 registered voters.

Even with just 1,000, that's 2% right there. We'll definitely see record turnouts for this election. Let's hope they can keep up.

 

[slotplayer]

HELLO EVERYONE: IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!

SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS, IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA, SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM. HE STATED ON THE AIR THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.

HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc., HE STATED
THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know), HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES. HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS TH AT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE. THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE. HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.

HANNITY IS DETERMINED THIS INFORMATION BE PUT OUT THERE BECAUSE AS AMERICAN'S, WE STILL DO NOT KNOW ABOUT OBAMA!! WAKE UP AMERICA !! THIS
IS SERIOUS, EVERYONE, THIS IS CRITICAL FOR OUR COUNTRY............just thought i would pass it along, as this candidate looks like he may be our future president, and i for one will be watching................laurie

Sean Insanity is such a truly, credible, unbiased source. What a broken record he is. As an independent I don't have time for idiology on either side.

I can't trust (or stomach for that matter) anyone that makes money off the division of the country, Insanity, Coultier, Dick Morris, Limbaugh and even O'Reilly to some extent.

These people are straightshooter Charles Krauthammer, David Gergen, Wolf Blitzer, Ed Rollins, Ben Stein and imho tell the truth good or bad.

 

[lots0]

Intellectual Conservatives are jumping ship...

Conservative Radio Host/Pundit Michael Smerconish Endorses Obama...

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[GamTrak]

These people are straightshooter Charles Krauthammer, David Gergen, Wolf Blitzer, Ed Rollins, Ben Stein and imho tell the truth good or bad.

I agree with you on that!