Pokerstars 32k confiscation

[3mptyseat]

JUst when it gets interesting, then it gets intriguiging...But interest and intrigue are off topic here; TOS is the focus as I see it...

I guess I just want to ask this: Over a million at the Borgata, hundreds of thousands online from MTT's and cash, and presumably, those sweet ass gucci shoes from Card Player TV fame all gone now...

Do you really think this 32k is gonna 'fix' everything? If so, I am interested in hearing how?

Whether or not pokerstars is doing something wrong or not is in the scope of interesting and even relevant. It's relevant bc ppl should be able to trust them, and if they are scooping bank rolls long after deciding to confiscate the BR, but first patiently waiting for said bank roll to mature; then they are not that trustworthy... And if that is the case, what's to keep them from breaching this newly established ethical boundary again, and creating an even more compromised threshold? If there was empirical evidence of that, I would tend to agree with you OP...And I would be intrigued...

But their is no proof of that... So get some... Ask them for ur login logs, the ip logs, and of course the fiduciary logs, or the 'history' as its called in the stars cashier. Then get the HH sent to PTR or something equivalent and hope they have not already passed judgement and are willing to give u an analysis of the playing style from the seized account and ur old account or accounts... Which is at the heart of this issue... With datamining being what it has become and analysis of that harvested info being less than subjective, people are gonna expect the TOS to be followed, you might have been going the same speed limit as the rest of the highstake's players, but u were the one who got pulled over... And then again, and then thrice...At least...So while I think ur wasting ur time, if u really have been a model player since their OG punishment, get some data. Get PTR interested, not us... Have these researchers conduct an independent investigation, and report it on their site... Then u wouldn't need a players advocacy site to help u, or in this case, bicker amongst each other whilst ripping ur BS to shreds...

But I imagine you won't do all that bc its not gonna help ur case... But, if I am wrong, get that info together, or as much of it as possible, and go show it to full tilt; if its really that damning to pokerstars, I bet they would like to see it...

If not move on and try to remember the next time u win a wpt event that a bedframe is easier to get out of than a mattress on the floor. Also try to refrain from digging the next time u find urself sub-terrain with a shovel and blisters... And always remember that loaning money has the same Ev+ as burning money(-/+0), that way if u do get paid back, its time for a fiesta!

ESP in that world of urs; u can be gtd. ur friends are there for ur rushes and their downswings... Soon as ur busto, they have already bounced... It's SOOO obvious that ur super talented, and there are loose highstakes-limit games up and down California... Go get a stake or work ur way back up the limits until ur solvent again... (Probably can avoid Artichoke Joes and The Oaks Club for a minute, but there are other places to play)
Why not go to the Bike, or Commerce, (or run for a Senate seat, ppl love BS artists as their Senators)...or whatever, IDK, just get a stake, and work back towards the black instead of festering on this issue; It's only going to impair ur ability to be successful in the future?

[Watdog]

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. Unless this player was given explicit permission in writing to open more than one account, I don't see what the issue is.

BTW - I think the T&Cs were shorter than this guy's complaint

If I understood correctly (I only read the cliffs), this is wrong.

There are two agreements here. The ToS and the one made between pokerstars and the player after he was given the warning. They agreed to allow him to keep playing conditionally to the change of his behavior. Player complies. Then Pokerstars disregards this agreement. It's not that hard to see where this is wrong.

[Watdog]

And I can't believe I am reading these complains about a post like this being too long. In a situation like this the more detailed the OP is, much better.