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    I have been winning for 3 years at online poker now. Of course there are still some bad weeks with a negative, but I have never had a whole month in the negative. (I also only play low stakes. NL50$ as the highest). Also I have some friends doing the same, some in tournaments.

    So why are some winning and others not?

    I have also had some really bad beats. I have lost twice with 4oK etc (using two hole cards) to straight flush. (Shame I did not play on a bad beat jackpot table).

    There also is a program:
    PokerEV.

    Basically it, calculate equity during the streets and can then
    tell if you generally say if you have been lucky or not. (Using hands seen at showdown)

    Try this and see if you actually are as unlucky as you believe, you will see how many $ you will have more or less than expected.

    It requires PokerTracker, and do get it if you really ever want to learn poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    Oops, didn't notice that. I just saw:
    Yeah he never had the nut low. The set rivered a boat.

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    I will repeat my suspicion that these "pros" are affiliates who take commision of the money given to the rake by other players (the affliate helped into bringing these players to the casino).
    Basically that means that such affiliates are something like casino share holders.

    I just noticed that in your profile Pokeraddict, you are stating you are a "pro". And you say you are not an affliate, whereas you have the bonuswhores page! That type of page can only belong to an affiliate.
    Perhaps not earning a percetage of the rake other players are gining to the rake, but a standard fee for every player registed to each casino through your page. You denied this. But I repeat the indications.

    And I will repeat, what a strange coincedence I got bad reputation points from only 2-3 people out of 1,200, and you were one of them.

    But let's suppose that all my suspicions are wrong. Lets start from another basis: Suppose that I am a crap poker player, and that was the reason of my losses, and not that I was cheated. As I said, I wish I could believe that I am a crap player, cause then I could hope I was not cheated. Variance, it could not be. I played thousands of hands with pennies.

    So, supposing I was not cheated, but I am a crap player. I have a serious question for you: What is your edge as a player if there was zero rake? Higher than 5%? So your edge exceeds the 5% rake and you can make profits with a 5% rake? Yes, I know you play bonuses and rakebacks, but lets forget about them. I am asking your edge if there was zero rake, and no other promotions. Don't tell me that it depens on your opponents. I am talking about your average edge overall.

    (for those who dont understand, edge is the $ of average profit for every 100$ wagered)

    Someone claimed that there are no fishes anymore as they are used to be, so he breakes even having the 5% rake, against him, but he gets the bonus at the end and the bonus equals his profits.
    So that player claims his edge as a player if there was no rake, is exactly 5%.

    So, what about you pokeraddict? And what about all of you constant winners at poker? What is your edge supposing the rake was zero?

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    I had one session where I lost $100 in 2 hands, 5 hands apart.

    One was a nut flush vs straight flush. The other was a boat vs bigger boat.

    Rigged? Nah. Bad luck.

    I've won over $1200 in one hand as well. Was that rigged against the other player? Nah. He just sucked

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    Oh, I forgot to mention, today I came 4th at a freeroll of 500-600 people and won 26$. Of course you can say that people dont play seriously in cheap freerolls. Indeed. But you can imagine how much I trust pokerooms that they dont cheat, that I prefer to play cheap freerolls. I repeat that I won the first prize of 500$ in a freeroll last christmas, beating 1027 people. That wasnt so cheap freeroll. That crap player I am. And I dont play freerolls that often. Hey, do you know any such good freerolls? (not with 2000 and 5000 players)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThodorisK View Post
    I will repeat my suspicion that these "pros" are affiliates who take commision of the money given to the rake by other players (the affliate helped into bringing these players to the casino).
    Basically that means that such affiliates are something like casino share holders.

    I just noticed that in your profile Pokeraddict, you are stating you are a "pro". And you say you are not an affliate, whereas you have the bonuswhores page! That type of page can only belong to an affiliate.
    Perhaps not earning a percetage of the rake other players are gining to the rake, but a standard fee for every player registed to each casino through your page. You denied this. But I repeat the indications.

    And I will repeat, what a strange coincedence I got bad reputation points from only 2-3 people out of 1,200, and you were one of them.

    But let's suppose that all my suspicions are wrong. Lets start from another basis: Suppose that I am a crap poker player, and that was the reason of my losses, and not that I was cheated. As I said, I wish I could believe that I am a crap player, cause then I could hope I was not cheated. Variance, it could not be. I played thousands of hands with pennies.

    So, supposing I was not cheated, but I am a crap player. I have a serious question for you: What is your edge as a player if there was zero rake? Higher than 5%? So your edge exceeds the 5% rake and you can make profits with a 5% rake? Yes, I know you play bonuses and rakebacks, but lets forget about them. I am asking your edge if there was zero rake, and no other promotions. Don't tell me that it depens on your opponents. I am talking about your average edge overall.

    (for those who dont understand, edge is the $ of average profit for every 100$ wagered)

    Someone claimed that there are no fishes anymore as they are used to be, so he breakes even having the 5% rake, against him, but he gets the bonus at the end and the bonus equals his profits.
    So that player claims his edge as a player if there was no rake, is exactly 5%.

    So, what about you pokeraddict? And what about all of you constant winners at poker? What is your edge supposing the rake was zero?
    Just so everyone knows, Im the other one who gave you negative reputation (the one with zero rep power). I gave it to you because your posts are rambling, ill informed, and libelous to other posters and businesses. All of this is compounded by your astounding innumeracy, which annoys me to no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThodorisK View Post
    So, what about you pokeraddict? And what about all of you constant winners at poker? What is your edge supposing the rake was zero?
    Why don't we all get together for a cash game or tournament and find out?

    I'll be in Vegas again next year....anyone else?
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    how long until you are sitting at a poker table in Vegas wondering how many of the other players are bots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tennis_balls View Post
    how long until you are sitting at a poker table in Vegas wondering how many of the other players are bots?
    lmao

    you forgot....

    How can the dealer stack the deck THAT fast?
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    I just noticed that in your profile Pokeraddict, you are stating you are a "pro". And you say you are not an affliate, whereas you have the bonuswhores page!
    *Sigh* If I was an affiliate don't you think somebody here would know it and out me? I've been a member here for 4+ years and likely in the top 20 in terms of number of posts. I don't own BW and have never owned any % of BW. I worked for them as support and marketing as a flat salary. That ended last year after about 6 months. I'm almost positive I've already mentioned this. If I owned it don't you think CM or somebody else would have outed me or is every poster here a part of the conspiracy? Also wouldn't I be a fool not to use the signature feature to help promote my site?

    There is a huge difference in being a winning player and taking a meaningless amount of money out of a freeroll. BTW were the cards rigged in your favor because it was a freeroll? What about the other players? They must have been all bots right?

    Your neg rep was given because you started an identical thread about some ridiculous childish rant. If you go to your user CP you will see that.

    Why haven't you stopped gambling yet?

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