I am more than 90% certain that all poker rooms are rigged

[lots0]

...you have to be an idiot not to think they are fixed!!

Well, I guess that makes me a grinning idiot...

[winbig]

Originally Posted by ak47poll

You are an idiot i worked for a company in ireland famous for its poker machines ETC which i cant name for obvious reasons we could fix the hands to what ever we wanted and you think the software on online poker cant be fixed LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOL

....actually, no comment. Come back with you have solid proof.

It's been said time and time again, but still rings true: Those that think every online poker room is rigged are simply trying to find an excuse for why they consistently lose. If those people worked on trying to improve their game instead of spending countless hours trying to prove that the sites are rigged, these posts wouldn't exist.

[lots0]

Could someone please explain to me why there are so many aces and kings in the flops?

Do you have any hard numbers to back up your statement? Or does it just "seem" to you like you see more Kings and Aces in the flops?

Those that think every online poker room is rigged are simply trying to find an excuse for why they consistently lose.

So very true. There are few that admit they are lousy players, and almost every one of the people that think all rooms are rigged have stated they 'know how to play' or "they play an optimum strategy" or some such garbage.

I for one know I am lousy player and I make mistakes... lots of them, thats why you don't see me playing on Poker After Dark.

[winbig]

Originally Posted by lots0

Do you have any hard numbers to back up your statement? Or does it just "seem" to you like you see more Kings and Aces in the flops?

So very true. There are few that admit they are lousy players, and almost every one of the people that think all rooms are rigged have stated they 'know how to play' or "they play an optimum strategy" or some such garbage.

I for one know I am lousy player and I make mistakes... lots of them, thats why you don't see me playing on Poker After Dark.

FWIW, Full Tilt is running tournaments for a seat on Poker After Dark....cheap too

[Chatmaster]

Originally Posted by ak47poll

You are an idiot i worked for a company in ireland famous for its poker machines ETC which i cant name for obvious reasons we could fix the hands to what ever we wanted and you think the software on online poker cant be fixed LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL OLOLOL

Mmmmmmm, You seem to think you are the only one that worked for these companies... How old are you, you sound very young making such a groundless statement. Because the company where you worked rigged their machines everyone does? There is no clear cut evidence that poker rooms are rigged. Nor does it make any sense for them to do so. Infact the opposite is rather true, they know out of all the gambling experts amongst us, they will be caught if they do. The want to be fair to build that reputation of bing fair so they can rely on their followers to bring more honey, they love the rakes and the more players the more the rakes.

I know there are arguments to the contrary by many most of whom are bad poker players, but the fact of the matter is plain and simple. Bad poker players rarely understand why they keep on loosing. The fact is that they simply do not understand how poker works. It is a skill game. Tight players often loose and they loose hard because they get rivered for large amounts of money, because they were convinced they had the better hand. Smart players actually convince them even further that they have the better hand. I mean it is like telling everyone what you have in your hand.

Become accountable for your own actions is my only suggestion. Take the responsibility and rather try to learn how to play poker first. Predictable play is such a great quality of a fish.

[Chatmaster]

Originally Posted by malleeboy

You have to remember, in live poker 12000 entries would take over 7 days (possibly 10) to complete. PokerStars can achieve that feat in around 5-6 hours. Now there are two reasons for that:

For a 30 year veteran you seem to very convinced of your facts. I agree that the temptation must be there for the poker rooms, but the reality is that the online play is much faster than land based. There is no comparison in speed. 100's of tables playing at the same time at lighting fast speeds, table changes at the speed of thought. The reality is that online play simply moves that much faster.

Originally Posted by malleeboy

I have seen so many setups where three players are all holding pocket pairs - ensuring an all-in scenarios - this is rare in live play, Quads appearing in 4 hands within an hour - never seen that in all my 30 years of playing live, flushs to make you think these are as common as pairs and to top it off, allinners getting runner, runner and winning against someone who has a st8 off the flop so many times it makes a mockery of the statistics of live play

If you increased the rate of live play you will note that there is nothing sinister here. If you look at mathematical odds, it is very much possible that this would happen at the rate it does. I honestly cannot think of a major difference between live poker and online poker in terms of the cards. Reading players and understanding the psychological differences are about it. People do play different online,... allot different, but the hands are similar.

[TDTAT]

I ran some poker rooms in Denver for a couple years (before they were busted.. SOCIAL CLUBS, lol)
before I found this beautiful thing called online
poker and then online casinos and then affiliation
I know some of the greats personally and when I walk into
Bobby's room a few people know me not because I play
good but because I am cute

You would be suprised with the amount of unbelievable
hands that come up frequently in live action. I can
not count the amount of unreal beats I have seen.
I would rarely have more than one table of live action
so it was not the Bellagio or even close. I have seen
it all and back to back and it does happen, and
sometimes frequenly.. I saw 2 ACTUAL bad beats..
quad over quads in less than an hour, and I know no one
was cheating because I hired the dealer and he was not
that smart!

I went on to find pokerstars.. I too thought
very bizarre things happened online but I was
winning so did not really care. I know a little
collusion goes on from time to time.. my friends
and I played so many sit&gos we would get at the
same tables sometimes and try to cheat a little on
messager (IT RARELY HELPED ONE BIT)

Now I am on the affiliate side, and although
I deal more with online casinos now, I feel
many if not most poker rooms and casinos realize
they they only make money with happy players...
if they do not they are just stupid and that is why Casino Meister is here.

Here is the problem:
Tilt. things go faster online, and we only remember the interesting hands or the bad beats..
We forget all the hands that go as we expect. If you win
in land poker rooms and not online, change up your
style.. I found I played the sit&gos great but live online action
was just not for me. If you don't trust it than quit playing
online because if you think you are going to loose, you
will never ever win.

I wish you the best luck and hope things start going your way soon!

[TDTAT]

I thought about my post and I know no one believes anything they hear
so hopefully this pic gives me a tiny bit of credibilty..

I am 100% certain that 90% of poker rooms do not cheat

[winbig]

I guess if they ran into this hand online, they'd be yelling rigged too

They just had this episode of HSP on again last night. Sick hand!

[TDTAT]

Originally Posted by winbig

I guess if they ran into this hand online, they'd be yelling rigged too

They just had this episode of HSP on again last night. Sick hand!

Thank you for posting, it is gross.