iPoker (Titan, Noble, Fair..) pure scums

[c7poker]

Hello all,
wish to inform you about my story & what I found related to whole iPokers (poker) network.

THEY ARE PURE SCUMS, AND THEY SHOULD BE STOPPED IN THEIR EVIL BUSINESS, taking money from players using setups & probably shills.

As member of one site at their network I played, for almost two months with good success, btw I am very good poker player... Playing tournaments & also $1, $2 & after $4 table I made several thousands, winning similar amount at both...

All bad started June 22nd, when my play been totally messed with their software. I wanst able to play normally and my play been interrupted with annoying great window.. several times didnt received cards even I wasnt sitout.. I tried to open new table (2nd) & play at both at same time BUT I want able to deposit, even all looked and worked well!?.. then also I wasnt able to add more money at my table but that green window and stealing focus keep messing me and my play. (and noone at support didnt answered for few hours! nor chat nor at phone!!)

Ok someone may say one bad day or problems with software/servers as I thought at 1st but no there is much more..

The next day June 23rd more bad happen, I noticed that I do not has my nick.. and I am just player 679854775 (after some time they sent me an email saying that my nick is removed because they find it annoying ie advertisment, but all been good for almost 2 months?!) ... then playing on one of tournaments & just before I will go into TOP10 I been kicked from play! Software just didnt wished me stay in game, I been at good position to get some nice price as I did several times even to win (also did few times).

Most interesting is that noone reported any problem those two days, noone answered at their support.. so when I lost 5-10 mins of my time till I figured out that i shuld try to restart software.. but after I did still nothing so somehow at last I joined my game manually (!?!) and yes I got TOP10 but lost my good concentration n staid short with chips.. so i didnt wished to wait much to go all and lost.. finished 9th.

All this is just prelude! Now real point coming :

After that day June 22rd my play at money tables changed a lot... in mean time I reported problems to sites & wait their answer, and start playing carefully because I noticed that card goes badly...

(i will jump little trough time.. and all my tries to make serious contact & get some serious answers & refund)

And what happen? Card goes real badly.. ok may happen to anyone 1 or two days, even to the best players.. but few more things happen.. they just keep buying time and no any serious answer from them & after I lost almost all left at my account I went to deposit more but I wasnt able too?? And imagine this time support been there already to 'lead' me but no help from them..

So with zero or little $ i start making my $ slowly, but surely using tickets I has as pro member.. and at money tables each time I will go little more in plus always at least few big bad beats they will throw at me..

For full 2 months, I wasn't able to move nor to win just 1 day some bigger sum, all i was able to lose all AND you may guess why... yes, each time Id had straight someone will be lucky at river and get boat, each time I had flush someone will have bigger or again lucky boat (full house)...

I tried many times to get in touch with them, and talk but no any sucess. All i was able to get some unclear answers with just words about fairness & on at all my emails & complains they just played games. I contacted site I play at several times, tried to get iPoker & only I made some contact with PlayTech..

Its very interesting to read (as official answer) from iPoker, they tacitly confirmed all my complains based on that what happen June 22/23rd but all they offered me been funny $3.30 !?


Till now I tried many more times to get in touch with them + asked serious reply & adequate compensation but no way...


In mean time I start my research, and what I found:
1. PlayTech made software for iPoker
2. iPoker is (dirty) boss for all their sites as Titan, CD poker, Noble (they bought them for $20 mill because noble had good reputation between players as fair site! No more if you ask me), Fair poker and others

!! 3. No way you may get or find any real info about iPoker, no any address, no any phone, no any real name & so on !! (my conclusion is: THEY ARE JUST FAKE COMPANY WHO HAS EVIL PLAN TO STEAL OUR MONEY... and tehn run and show as someone else!!)

4. All those companies are in or belongs to ppl from Israel !! (what an coincidence) only beside few sites/poker rooms they bought or opened at other countries. Even all people who work for them (at any of those sites) are from Israel or jews!! (as stupid idiots at support, who do not even speak english & they are paid just to fool all of players as iPoker care for members, what an farce!)


I WISH TO WARN YOU ALL ABOUT THAT NETWORK - iPOKER, THEY ARE PURE SCUMS. THEY TOOK FROM ME SURELY LOT MORE THAN $3,000..

I AM WILLING TO GIVE ALL MY EMAILS, CHATS, AND GAMES HISTORY ON REVIEW.. if someone is interested & my goal is now to see them closed!!!

YES closed, they are pure evil = thiefs who opened poker network not for poker & let us play games as their nice software is; no, they made it only to clean our pockets.


Sorry I am not in mood + just spoke over the messenger with one girl, marketing director at PlayTech (mother company of iPoker if you ask me) ...
she is so scared to give me any information as few more persons she only gave me fake promises as someone will contact me.. but all lies, and what??
I lost so much time trying to talk with them and get adequate compensation but what happen they placed even worst setup on my account, each time i play in any bigger ammount I simply may not win.

Now as joke, what the hell marketing director has with (big) complains??

And why that girl is pushed in front of real bosses there?! She do not even know anything about play or poker... or she is so smart & evil too, to just fool us (me in this case)


*I also asked help from you Bryan, I am not sure what you may do & even I like to get my money back, now wish more to see them closed because my case is pure and clear evidence of their evil business.*


NOW, I wish to ask you all about your experience & what you think about my case. And how is possible that good player as I am, who is able to be in plus almost $1000 dailly ($$$ at tourny + $$$ from ca$h tables) after that day had all minuses ???!!!


I will put also here my opened bet (one I send/said to poker room & to PlayTech):

I bet in $10,000 that if we play real money game and I has any high pocket pair or any great cards (as AA, KK, QQ, AKs, AQs) and you any two bad cards & if we go all in i will lose. So point is, I bet that I will lose, so if my cards lose mean that I win bet (with you!) and vice versa. (as you play my cards & me yours)

Anyone willing to try?

(may happen they will remove that setup.. yes, now when they see that I am not good one to be played with & that they chose wrong guy to mess with! but I need to play just 1 hour to figure out is it still on or is removed)

INSTEAD OF CONCLUSION,

1. BE WARNED ABOUT IPOKER.

2. MAY YOU HELP ME TO GET COMPENSATION (refund), and

3. I WISH ALL POKER PLAYERS LEARN ABOUT THEM & IF THEY DID THIS TO MORE OF YOU TO FIND WAY TO CLOSE THEM ONCE FOR ALL TIME & PUNISH OWNERS SOMEHOW.


Ok thats all for now, I expect to read comments & sorry for caps I used it to emphasize important things.

 

[swampwitch]

You can send a complaint to Playtech directly here, if you haven't already tried...

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4. All those companies are in or belongs to ppl from Israel !! (what an coincidence) only beside few sites/poker roomes they bought or opened at other countries. Even all people who work for them (at any of those sites) are from Israel or jews!! (as stupid idiots at support, who do not even speak english & they are paid just to fool all of players as iPoker care for members, what an farce!)

Gee, Jews in Israel. Who knew?
I do hope that you didn't mean for that bit of your complaint to sound as borderline anti-semitic as it reads.

 

[c7poker]

You can send a complaint to Playtech directly here, if you haven't already tried...

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Gee, Jews in Israel. Who knew?
I do hope that you didn't mean for that bit of your complaint to sound as borderline anti-semitic as it reads.

Yep, but I do not has anything against jews in global = I am not anti-semitic. Its only very interesting that all this controls just few people behind curtains, and yes they are surely jews! Probably bad ones between all jewish people.


Thank you for the link, if you read better my post you will see that I contacted PlayTech but they just play as they do not has anything with it + they arent willing to give me direct contact with iPoker. Why iPoker because they (PlayTech) confirmed that they only made software but iPoker is in charge... very interesting then why that form, yes the one you gave me link for?!

I really spend much time to tru to find more informations about them & truth.. maybe next time I will tell you more what I found + with more proofs. As I said I am willing to put in public (post..) all my correspondence with them & also my games at money tables. But you no need to be an expert or even good poker player to see what happen.. + may be that they target only just few % of us, + you must be good player, bad one will anyhow lose his money sooner or later..
Few days ago, I start playing at Party, and slowly gettin back into form and yes I winning again at money tables

Cant wait to read some of yours experience, playing at any of iPokers sites (poker rooms, as Titan, CD poker, Noble, Fair poker, Ocean their new toy..)

 

[swampwitch]

Harping about "bad" Jews versus "good" Jews has nothing to do with your complaint....which truthfully to me sounds like little more than bad luck on your part, except for the glitches you experienced which I admit I don't quite understand from your description. Judaism is a religion, and has nothing to do with the customer service you are experiencing. If you had a problem with an outfit from Gibralter, would you be complaining about the Catholics manning the customer service desk?

Leave religion out of it, and contact Playtech Disputes.

 

[tennis_balls]

lmao....the Jews are now responsible for all bad beats???.....sounds like bad karma may be the real cause of your troubles

 

[swampwitch]

lmao....the Jews are now responsible for all bad beats???.....sounds like bad karma may be the real cause of your troubles

I usually blame the Druids.

If anyone here is a Druid, I apologize for this comment.

 

[c7poker]

Let we be serious

C'mon you two, we (I) do not speak here about jews or druids (lol) I only mention that as very interesting fact.. nothing more and nothing less.

POINT IS:

iPoker obviously do not work fair, and at time they saw me earning some bigger money someone there reacted and placed some unfair setup at my account!


What happen to my BET?! Anyone of you interested to take it ?

lets play poker ... so you will play AA or KK versus mine 27o.. are you afraid to play?


Hurry till they didnt closed my account.

 

[c7poker]

One more proof

At time I played at Titan poker, iPoker kicked (disconnect is weak word to describe it) me from money table! At that time I played lower tables, and still checking them & train my play..

IMPORTANT is to understand and realise this:

1. I never been disconnected, and maybe just few times when problem is/been at my side (ISP)..

2. Titan poker, played games, and even I sent them several emails and exactly described all they still refused to refund me... so all that several times till I didnt made this screen where you may see what happen!!

And whats again real sad, they gave me only $1.86 !!! Plus as their good will they said they added $5... what an evil trick!

WHY WE DO NOT SEE DP AT MY ACCOUNT?!

WHY DISCONNECTION PROTECTION DIDNT WORKED?!

WHY they didnt refunded me all, just after I reported?! I know why, and they probably realised that I am very stubborn and they will surely has lot more problems with me thats why after 6 or 7 emails and few chats I got that miserable money!

HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT 1st EVER DISCONNECTION, JUST BE WHEN YOU (ME) HAS THE BEST POSSIBLE HAND ALL THE TIME & THEREFORE NICE WIN ?!


Ok, picture knows to talk more than 1000 words, as someone said so clever:

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[winbig]

At time I played at Titan poker, iPoker kicked (disconnect is weak word to describe it) me from money table! At that time I played lower tables, and still checking them & train my play..

IMPORTANT is to understand and realise this:

1. I never been disconnected, and maybe just few times when problem is/been at my side (ISP)..

Which was it? Never, or a few times.

If you've been disc. a few times b/c of your ISP, isn't it logical that you can get disc from the server w/no foul play involved? Or is the ISP in on it too? There's many networks & routers inbetween you and the server, so the chance is greater you're going to get disconnected/lagged/whatever from them.

2. Titan poker, played games, and even I sent them several emails and exactly described all they still refused to refund me... so all that several times till I didnt made this screen where you may see what happen!!
And whats again real sad, they gave me only $1.86 !!! Plus as their good will they said they added $5... what an evil trick!

Refund you what? They gave you exactly what you were out. $1.86, then threw in $5.

PS: I can only assume that since you played the "Jew" card that you think they're only in it for the money. This proves otherwise. What relevance does a person's beliefs have in this anyways? Nothing.

What more do you want them to do? Go to the winner of the hand and take the winnings from their account and give it to you?

WHY WE DO NOT SEE DP AT MY ACCOUNT?!

WHY DISCONNECTION PROTECTION DIDNT WORKED?!

I'm surprised places even offer DP in ring games anymore. It's evil. People abuse it, therefore it shouldn't even be offered.

If you don't like getting disc with the [potential] nuts, don't play online.

WHY they didnt refunded me all, just after I reported?! I know why, and they probably realised that I am very stubborn and they will surely has lot more problems with me thats why after 6 or 7 emails and few chats I got that miserable money!

Read above.

HOW IS POSSIBLE THAT 1st EVER DISCONNECTION, JUST BE WHEN YOU (ME) HAS THE BEST POSSIBLE HAND ALL THE TIME & THEREFORE NICE WIN ?!

Shit happens. You say all the time, but only claim one instance.

You had JJ, and only knew they were the nuts AFTER the fact. On any normal day, this is a marginal hand with 3 players to the flop.

Bottom line, cut your "losses" if you don't like this place, and move on to another room

 

[pokeraddict]

I have an idea. If you do not like iPoker then play somewhere else. There are way too many poker networks out there with better bonuses, rakeback, bonuses and/or support to mess around with them if they upset you this much.

 

[NoMouthToScream]

Is this post a joke? Because i'm laughing my ass off. Pointing the finger at Jews because coincedently you had some bad beats.

Did you play proper bankroll management, when you lost a lot of money during a downswing, did you bother to go down in levels?

I've had some bad beats and downswings at Bodog, and Calvin Ayre is Canadian, he as a Canadian must be the reason why I'm getting this bad luck. Canadians are out to get me and my money.

And just because you think a hand is marginable doesn't mean someone will not call you even if you raise a high amount. You can't make someone fold, you can only put them to a hard decision. In the long run, playing with those hands are supposed to get you money.

But let me be on your side, has anyone else experienced something similar at Ipoker? I know I've experienced things like this at other sites. But I'm not gonna proclaim my greatness as a poker player, and say it's the poker side fault without taking some real evidence down.

 

[tennis_balls]

But let me be on your side, has anyone else experienced something similar at Ipoker?

I lost my $25 deposit there. I'm one of the greatest poker players in the universe so I suspect the druids conspired to break me.

 

[winbig]

I lost my $25 deposit there. I'm one of the greatest poker players in the universe so I suspect the druids conspired to break me.

Funny, she doesn't look Druish.

 

[c7poker]

First like to say thanks for your replies. To all of you beside tenis_balls better write us some jokes here, as I see you like/wish to be funny

Now will answer ya shortly, DP (disconnection protection) is great feauture & big plus for it! Even I saw miss usage few times, its still better to has it than not. Plus its so obvious when someone is afraid to call & place more money at table.. plus poker room may check that easily in 95%. (Now, for full week at Party nor I nor anyone I played didnt used it yet!!)

Yes I stopped totally my play at them.

But my question to you all is:

Let say that I am in right (as fact!), so what we gonna do to pay them back?!
Hope you may understand my point = if they are just tiefs shouldnt we (someone for sure) get them?!

Plus thats reason for my post here. And why also Bryan started all this, and helping ppl all around globe with similar problems?!! NO, I wouldnt let them take my money & all my time I used to play there to earn money fairly + after I spent so much time in all emails, chats and other kind of conversations with them as also several phone calls. I am sure that they took from me unfairly more than $3,000.00..


Now why I am so sure in setup. Dont you think that too, many coincidence happen?! I will add more.. and for what they bought/buying time?!


All is so simple guys, they wished me keep playing FREE for house, I am able to make money from $0 as I did few times. Just give me 1 or two tickets & I getting in price in 85%. Even without it I been able to win freerolls..!!

Why I said this? Because by time all money goes into rake & its good for them that we all play more & more with let say similar succes & that way noone will win beside them! (as communism, only leaders live as kings and all others are just beasts & their toys LOL)


AND I AM REALLY SCARED WITH SOME OF YOUR WORDS/REPLIES, SO WILL ASK YOU: DO YOU EVER READ SITE RULES (?!) & WHO YOU JOINING ?! (I do, even may not read all I still check site 1st & search little internet before I decide to join) I personally do not care who they are (jews, druids, ...; so I invite you to stop talk about it & making jokes thats pure sarcasm + wouldnt be nice to anyone who is jew, druid..- do they still exist yep druids ) and or where they are (=registered) I more care about safety & to see they providing us fair conditions for play! Later let better & or happier player win AND let they earn their profit from rake & give us even better sites/rooms to play.


OK, for end of this email I will add one more important thing, proof I found:

After I became aware of unfair play, I checed some names I been suspected to play as shills & guess what?! BINGO, another coincidence:

Player(s) in who I suspected, you may not see! As you know we may use search player to see where anyone play also if player isnt online we see/read that clearly! But for some names I checked their software didnt returned nor 1 of those two possible answers!?! Just nothin, empty screen when you try to find them, so how is that possible I asking you all. I used some time to check this several times with different names & always worked fine only for those SHILLS software stay mute! (I think, they saw what I do and they fixed that I will check it & inform you, but also invites you to try it and test!)


AND ONE MORE TIME, IF YOU ARE POKER PLAYERS AS I AM, WHY NOONE TAKING MY BET??

PLAY AGAINST ME AA OR KK OR AKs MINE 27o AND SEE HOW GOOD I AM.

THAT OFFER WILL STAY VALID TILL I FINISH MY FIGHT WITH THEM (iPoker).


Good luck to all of ya.. and also if anyone like to see my play, lets play poker I am currently at Party and will give you my nick if you suspect in my qualities or think you are better

 

[winbig]

Did you really think it was a setup when you were winning?















Didn't think so.

 

[bpb]

People like you who are convinced that online poker is rigged generally share a few commonalities.

1) They suck at poker
2) They're bound to lose a lot of money at poker because they don't realize #1


But hey, maybe you're the exception.

 

[ace4suited]

One thing about problems with poker rooms (getting disconnected, problems with software etc) is that 9 times out of 10 unless others are suffering the same is that the problems are at your end.

Your problems with bad beats are just silly - as much as sites have imperfect randomisation software it is not in favour of one player or another. If you study your hand histories you might find useful faults in your play. People only remember the bad beats they dont remember how often their aa holds against 66 etc etc. If you are losing on a site it can be good to change but this is not because of luck being different it is just because sometimes when you change site it is easier to go back to first principles and play proper poker rather than just repeat mistakes that you were making.

As for why you got to keep your name for 2 months and then it got deleted the answer seems fairly simple. Once you had contacted staff about something else they noticed it and otherwise it would have slipped undernear the radar.

In terms of your tourney where you were doing well and got pc problems - because the problems were with you and not the others - that strongly suggests that the problem was at your end and not theirs. The fact they are willing to give you some compensation is a bonus rather than anything else.

The I-poker network has been struggling on my current pc (which is quite old) and i am not sure whether or not the problem is because my pc is not powerful enough or whether i have some problems with my pc.

What i would say for yourself is get a proper antivirus check of your pc because there could be something routed in there that has caused the crashing etc of your pc when at the site.

The only real complaint that holds any water is the issue of customer support and contact. The current position is that VERY few sites offer 24 hour live support or even anything half decent when it comes to support. Many sites wont answer e-mails, wont answer phones etc. Any site that does have good support is not the norm.

There are exceptions - stars for instance whilst they can be a little tardy with some affiliate style requests with customer queries they deal with them well. They are not the only ones but poor customer support is the norm.

So the conclusion is far from damning (however many words you type - goodness that took a while to read) of I-poker

btw whats your name on party poker?

 

[sweetdenny]

few comments

First point c7 poker are you saying u deposited and lost 3000 when it went bad. You were playing .25 .5 in that screenshot thats a lot of buy ins before you realised it was fixed.

Second point i poker support i have found in general is poor i got bumped a lot by them on disconnection it was not my isp as was told as it runs fine every other site i stopped playing there because the site kept locking up disconnecting you so i can see his point on this one though i dont think it was deliberate just crummy servers.

Third point Winbig u said that him having JJ on a J59 rainbow flop with pre flop raises called with 3 players seeing flop was a marginal hand at best gotta say think your way off mark there or you must be the rockest of rocks.

Fourth point i think C7 hit a downswing but coupled with the fact of poor connection it helped him to think everything is against you which everyone does when there sliding down.

Online poker has been around long enough now that if anyone was rigging it someone would have spilt the beans by now.

 

[winbig]

Third point Winbig u said that him having JJ on a J59 rainbow flop with pre flop raises called with 3 players seeing flop was a marginal hand at best gotta say think your way off mark there or you must be the rockest of rocks.

He was folded preflop, in which I was commenting on.

JJ is a marginal hand with 3 players preflop any way you look at it. Anything can happen. I've seen JJ busted so many times it isn't funny.

 

[sweetdenny]

Winbig

Yes jacks are tough to play either play em big pre flop going heads up or treat em as a small pair. Looking back at his hand history there would have only been him in mr K10 going to the the unless mr9d10d was calling alomost 10 dollars pre flop as c7 would have re raised the re raise you would think. Well thats way i woulda played it but for the amount of money that they had sitting in front of them i dont think this disconnection would have annoyed me that much.

 

[winbig]

Yep, and I bet this thread would have never been posted had he been disconnected and the flop included a K/Q. I bet he'd be praising the disconnect for saving him money

 

[TheGooner]

About this thread.

The whining about bad beats and losing hands

This is a joke.

The game is not rigged for you to lose (even if you bad-mouth the Jews) as they don't have the skills to rig the RNG to beat you specifically.

Get over yourself - the truth is that you've done 3K in poker BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT AS GOOD AS YOU THINK YOU ARE.


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About the bad connections and frozen game play

This is more of an issue - but not one for compensation.

You are the one who decided to play for money EVEN though you knew that you were having poor connectively issues.

You are the one who made the mistake - not the game provider who did not force you to play.

I had similar issue for a month and eventually found out that it was a phone line related issue at my end. I phoned my broadband supplier who "traced" the line and found numerous faults and the phone company fixed it.

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About Jews ruling poker - actually they rule a lot more financial and entertainment industries than just poker.

Hollywood is stacked with Jewish producers and a quick check on the ownership lists of big casino groups show a simialr trend.

But that simply reflects generations of astute business practice - and an ability to spend money to invest in the right industries at the right time.

It is not a machavellian plot to control the world.

 

[c7poker]

Conspiracy or not, hmm?

Looks some of you really missing a point, or just playing game or only do care when you lose your own money..

I wouldnt speak here about how good I am, as poker player, if fact that I winning almost each day at money tables isnt enough + invite ya to play me let we discuse that at table.. (for you who think that any hand is marginal I will reply, sure boy thats why you losing your money at poker table..only idiots thinks that money is when you has AA or when you get poker or royal.. )

To clear you some facts..:

a.) I played $1, $2 & $4 tables at CD poker (iPoker network), most of $3,000++ (money I lost) I won at tables & tournaments till that date

b.) Winning all the time till that date June 22rd, and after lossing all the time should speak by itself; having in mind what all happen..

c.) Nor at one of my emails, they didnt been serious & or gave adequate answer, related on all or each of my complains separately

d.) Nor one honest company do not has any reason to hide all their datas!

e.) Interesing is all those sites/companies are just farce, same people, same 'shit' if you asking me! All their employees do not know anything or hide things so clever, and noone is wiling to give any information or contact with higher person at their sites!

f.) Their certificate is fake!! look by yourself

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+ its so easy to add one line of code; I am programmer too & know how easy is to do that! How tstglobal.com may guarantee for their RNG? Pure farce!! MY COMPLAIN IS RELATED ON SETUP, IE WHEN WE BET LET SAY MORE THAN 10BB EACH MY STRAIGHT, FLUSH, TRIPS, (even) BOAT BE BEATEN!!! (c'mon guys I been losin so many times in row, and may not all be 'bad beats')

g.) As you may read PlayTech should be the boss by that certificate but they arent???

h.) PlayTech is registered and company in Cyprus BUT all thier persons are in Israel.. (Cyprus is good known place for washing money!)

i.) As I know gamble isn't legal at Israel, but that do not stops their bosses & fake companies to operate as from other countries and TRUTH is they are still in Israel !!! = I THINK THAT GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL SHOULD CHECK ALL THIS! (who is behind all this?? as I investigate more, more become clear whats going on and what they do = TAKING MONEY FROM US, PRETENDING TO BE FAIR BUT THEIR ONLY GOAL IS TO ROB OUR MONEY!)

Now let me ask you two questions:

1. Shouldnt site where we play at guarantee us our money and fairness?! And if something irregular happen to give us answers & or adequate compensation, as in case when tournament is canceled or their software cause obvious mistake?!

2. If you go at store to buy new TV, and at time you pay for one you chose, suddenly they telling you no more TVs.. you say okay then give me my money back AND they telling you "No, Sir 1st fill this form.." after you say in yourself "what the hell let me fill it and go from here.." .. after they got your form they still do not giving you your money back!? You getting real pissed dont ya (thats how I feel related what happen to me).. and till you ask to speak with manager they keep playing you and gee at same time you see that you 'lost' your wallet, wow what an coincidence.. BUT they keep telling you its okay Sir.. we are fair (trustful) company... and you will probaly say to yourself again, if you do not break all there and kick some asses, let me get out of this 'evil' store.. and one more surprise waits ya when you go out to get your car even your car is missing.. ANYONE EVEN JUST LITTLE INTELLIGENT WILL SEE WHAT HAPPEN..

I do not saying that all online poker is rigged, no it isnt plus I am the one who play it lol, I do saying SIMPLE ISNT POSSIBLE THAT SO MANY BAD THINGS HAPPEN WITHOUT CONNECTION, PLUS ANYHOW THEY ARE IN OBLIGATION TO GIVE ME (US) ADEQUATE ANSWERS & COMPENSATION

AND

iPOKER TACITLY CONFIRMED (!!!) ALL MY COMPLAINS BUT ALL THEY DID IS TO OFFER ME $3.30

AFTER LOOONG FIGHT CD POKER OFFERS ME ADDITIONALLY $10, WHAT AN BAD JOKE

(some of you I advice to read better my posts, even long I said all clearly..)

will be continued..

 

[ergopro]

NL tables usually don't have disconnect protection...
3K can be seen as a downswing...
Even flopped 4oak will lose now and then...
And I don't mean to be negative...just saying what I think...
And no, I'm not a good poker player...just an average grinder...
But if someone has solid proof that online poker is rigged, please post here...
(and I don't mean hands lost in a downswing, and complaints posted when totally pissed by major suckouts on tables)
Good luck on your battle against iPoker c7...

 

[c7poker]

NL tables usually don't have disconnect protection...
3K can be seen as a downswing...
Even flopped 4oak will lose now and then...
And I don't mean to be negative...just saying what I think...
And no, I'm not a good poker player...just an average grinder...
But if someone has solid proof that online poker is rigged, please post here...
(and I don't mean hands lost in a downswing, and complaints posted when totally pissed by major suckouts on tables)
Good luck on your battle against iPoker c7...

NLs at iPoker do has DP (disconnect protection), similar to all other sites which has it too you may use it only once a day.. EXAMPLE/picture I gave you just should show what they do! So no way that been accident.. I wait to hear more from all of you + will try to find more online.

About proofs, I will add more.. but let me ask you: what is proof you like to see/read about them??

Thanks for nice words & I wishing you GL at tables. Yes, I wpuldnt stop my fight till I get last cent & or see them closed

 

[ergopro]

I just meant that iPoker uses Playtech software as do many other poker sites and I can't understand how the RNG could be rigged in their favor just at iPoker...because in my opinion it would mean that all Playtech sites are rigged, which really would be a huge blow on all online poker, and by that very unlikely behavior for such a big software provider...I think they make a lot of money without touching the RNG...Again, I don't mean to sound negative, just expressing my opinion

 

[winbig]

Thanks for nice words & I wishing you GL at tables. Yes, I wpuldnt stop my fight till I get last cent & or see them closed

You're kidding right?

Give it up already and move on.

You lost the $3k fair and square. What do you want, them to go back to the players you lost it to and take the money from them and give it back to you?

 

[c7poker]

You're kidding right?

Give it up already and move on.

You lost the $3k fair and square. What do you want, them to go back to the players you lost it to and take the money from them and give it back to you?

Listen winbig, I do not know you or what you trying to do with your post, but at some point you really pissing me..

Man I had serious problems playing at CD poker, iPoker network, one whole day my play been messed with their software, then next day they removed my nick name & kicked me from tournament I been in good possition to get higher price than I did.. after several more things happen.. and NO ISNT POSSIBLE TO GET SO MANY BAD BEATS.. tell that story to someone else.. if ya like I may show it you..

Anyway thx for your oppinion, but I will not stop till get my money or see them closed. (now looks more 2nd option, I gave them dead line they crossed.. plus they still talk same old story about fairnes, on that I reply f**k you tiefs = give me reports on my complains or I will get you iPoker, now is just matter of time)

I just thinking to offer $3,000.00 to anyone who help me close bastards. I am programmer, webmaster, gambler.. I playing poker since I been kid & I know to lose, that isnt problem at all, but that way NO WAY, when its obvious what they did!!!

As at wild wild west times.. looks I will need to use same methods, so: REWARD OF $3,000.00 to one who help me close them! ie DEAD or ALIVE I WANT THEM ..

ANd for all you readers, read well my posts!, I already gave enough proofs & if you cant see/understand its your problem not mine. I ONLY HAS QUESTION HOW & WHAT WE MAY DO TO CLOSE THEM OR FORCE TO PAY BACK ALL MONEY THEY TOOK UNFAIR (NOT ONLY TO MYSELF)?!!

 

[nafanny29]

I already gave enough proofs

I have seen 1 hand so far I think, need a few more than that for it to be "proof". Like 1000+ maybe.

 

[NoMouthToScream]

You mentioned you played cash games. What limits? Give us more information to determine whether it was due to bad beats or just a statistical impossibility. Unless we get more specific information on what limits and games you played that caused you to come to this conclusion, then all your further posting is just a rant.

 

[winbig]

I have seen 1 hand so far I think, need a few more than that for it to be "proof". Like 1000+ maybe.

Yep..pictures are worth 1000 words. Prove us wrong.

 

[winbig]

PS: You can show screenshots of hands you would have won if it wasn't for getting disconnected all day long....As long as you have emails from your ISP, the poker room, and every provider that sits on the route between you and the server stating that there was no packet loss or severe lag at the time the disconnects happened.............

 

[c7poker]

PS: You can show screenshots of hands you would have won if it wasn't for getting disconnected all day long....As long as you have emails from your ISP, the poker room, and every provider that sits on the route between you and the server stating that there was no packet loss or severe lag at the time the disconnects happened.............

Hmm you really trying to sound smart, dont ya?

Isnt weird that they disconnect you (me) when you has the best hand & therefore nice win + anyhow why they didnt refunded me at my 1st complain? NO, I need to send several emails.. they claim as they may not find that game BULLSHIT, I described all well + gave them time..


Listen & Read:
at time I been kicked from tournament (June 23rd) everything worked fine! Yes all, my inet connection but also their software, the only problem is: THEY DIDNT WISH TO SEE ME AT TOP ON THAT TOURNAMENT .

as one more proof when I restarted software, again everything been fine only software still didnt started my game/table and I did that by myself, after I found tournament on list & my table -> manually!!

 

[winbig]

Hmm you really trying to sound smart, dont ya?

For your information, I've worked for 2 ISP's in the past as a Systems Administrator. I also have well over 13 years experience in PC's, Mac's, Almost all conceivable operating systems, as well as an extensive knowlege of networks.

I think that qualifies me to tell you that you're problem is a network issue, and not a conspiracy against you.

Isnt weird that they disconnect you (me) when you has the best hand & therefore nice win + anyhow why they didnt refunded me at my 1st complain? NO, I need to send several emails.. they claim as they may not find that game BULLSHIT, I described all well + gave them time..


Listen & Read:
at time I been kicked from tournament (June 23rd) everything worked fine! Yes all, my inet connection but also their software, the only problem is: THEY DIDNT WISH TO SEE ME AT TOP ON THAT TOURNAMENT .

as one more proof when I restarted software, again everything been fine only software still didnt started my game/table and I did that by myself, after I found tournament on list & my table -> manually!!

Yea, it's all about you. They just do it to piss you off. Guess what? It's working.

 

[c7poker]

You mentioned you played cash games. What limits? Give us more information to determine whether it was due to bad beats or just a statistical impossibility. Unless we get more specific information on what limits and games you played that caused you to come to this conclusion, then all your further posting is just a rant.

I am NL player, PL playing rarely and L very rarely.. but I am not maniac to go 'all in' each hand as some idiots does. So, all my wins been deserved.

I didnt used tracking software so isnt easy for me to give you all my last 10 bad beats, looks each time we bet over 10BB I simply may not win! Always some miracle happen..

my last 4 'bad beats'

1.
me: T7c p1: 66 p2: XX p3: XX

flop: 9s 8d 6h -> he bet $8 I call, p2,3 fold

turn: Kd -> he bet $34, me raise $63.5, he calls &

river: 8 (((((

2.
me: AKh (bad & loose) player1: As 9d p2: XX

flop: Ad 8h 9h -> they check to me I bet $3, p2 raise $6, p1 raise $9 I call, p2 fold

turn: 8s -> he bet $14.9 I call

river: Ac even boat didnt saved me (((

3.
me: T9c p1: 66 p2: XX

flop: 3h 2c 6c

turn: 8c (my flush!)

river 3c (he getting boat, same situation as No1!)

4.
just several mins before 3. same player p1 won me, we both had flush at river only he had nut flush!


I giving you this hands to see, and nothing special about them, ONLY how I ALWAYS getting those bad beats?? If that happen only 1 or even 2,3 days okay we may say bad day but that happen all the times!!

One more time, ISNT weird that since that date June 22rd I been almost each day in plus after all minus!! And now I again winning at Party..


p.s. First time I started playing two tables at once at CDpoker, I got almost identical cards! At both I had two pairs of tens at flop & both hands I bet enough to kick all players beside 1 & both I lost to highest two piars (flop been rainbow with T as biggest card).. THAT BEEN 1st TRIGGER FOR ME TO SUSPECT IN FAIRNESS THERE..

 

[c7poker]

For your information, I've worked for 2 ISP's in the past as a Systems Administrator. I also have well over 13 years experience in PC's, Mac's, Almost all conceivable operating systems, as well as an extensive knowlege of networks.

Glad to meet ya

I think that qualifies me to tell you that you're problem is a network issue, and not a conspiracy against you.

Good joke.. why I do not laugh on it probably because it been my money not yours

Yea, it's all about you. They just do it to piss you off. Guess what? It's working.

At last you are right , yes they did, especially after many 'bad beats' they throw at me playing $1,$2 & $4 NLs..

 

[winbig]

It was sarcasm, but whatever...

You haven't gotten anyone on your side that's posted to this thread....*hint hint*

Ever think to realize you're just unlucky?

PS: Where's the ultimate proof? We're waiting...

 

[nafanny29]

This thread sucks!!

Out of all the networks I have played on over the last 3 years (About 15), I have had issues with 2 of them. One where the software would just crash every few mins, and one where like yourself I really thought the cards were rigged.

Guess what, I dont play on them and didnt lose $3000 on each site repeatedly trying to
1. Think the software wont crash this time.. it cant surely and
2. Ignore my gut feeling that something was not right and plough on spewing chips.

Move to another site and if you are as good as you say you are you will win back the $3000 in no time.

 

[bpb]

my last 4 'bad beats'

1.
me: T7c p1: 66 p2: XX p3: XX

flop: 9s 8d 6h -> he bet $8 I call, p2,3 fold

turn: Kd -> he bet $34, me raise $63.5, he calls &

river: 8 (((((

2.
me: AKh (bad & loose) player1: As 9d p2: XX

flop: Ad 8h 9h -> they check to me I bet $3, p2 raise $6, p1 raise $9 I call, p2 fold

turn: 8s -> he bet $14.9 I call

river: Ac even boat didnt saved me (((

3.
me: T9c p1: 66 p2: XX

flop: 3h 2c 6c

turn: 8c (my flush!)

river 3c (he getting boat, same situation as No1!)

4.
just several mins before 3. same player p1 won me, we both had flush at river only he had nut flush!

These aren't close to being bad beats.

You are just one one of the tens of thousands of bad poker players who ran well for awhile, and is now running as expected. You are not a winning poker player who has been victimized by rogue software.

But hey, don't believe me? Fine. Move to another platform. Try Party, or UltimateBet, or Prima, or Mansion, or anywhere. You'll eventually come to the conclusion that they're rigged too. And the next place. And the next place. Finally you'll conclude that all online games are rigged.

And you'll have lost thousands.

 

[NoMouthToScream]

Do you limp into these pots? I'm thinking you do.

 

[Keyser]

my last 4 'bad beats'

1.
me: T7c p1: 66 p2: XX p3: XX

flop: 9s 8d 6h -> he bet $8 I call, p2,3 fold

turn: Kd -> he bet $34, me raise $63.5, he calls &

river: 8 (((((

2.
me: AKh (bad & loose) player1: As 9d p2: XX

flop: Ad 8h 9h -> they check to me I bet $3, p2 raise $6, p1 raise $9 I call, p2 fold

turn: 8s -> he bet $14.9 I call

river: Ac even boat didnt saved me (((

3.
me: T9c p1: 66 p2: XX

flop: 3h 2c 6c

turn: 8c (my flush!)

river 3c (he getting boat, same situation as No1!)

4.
just several mins before 3. same player p1 won me, we both had flush at river only he had nut flush!

Hand 1: There are 10 cards not reveled that can beat you on the river(One 6, 3 8s, 3 9s, and 3 Kings). Since we know what 8 of the remaining cards are based on your description, that is 10/44 = 23%. Certainly not unheard of.

Hand 2: He has you beat on the flop! Not to mention the turn and river. Top two pair versus your top pair and K kicker. If you would have won that hand, it would have been a bad beat for him! Yes, you had the best hand pre-flop, but please! Best hand pre-flop does not a conspiracy make.

Hand 3: He not only has the best hand pre-flop, he has you beat at the flop. Yes, you caught your flush card on the turn, but once again he has 10 cards that can beat you on the river. I can hardly call this a bad beat.

Hand 4: Player catches same flush card that you needed on river, only he has the better flush. Meaning he had you beat before the river as well. And you are complaining?!?!?!?!?

I will give you credit for one things. You certainly have the Phil Hellmuth act down when you suffer an allegedly "bad beat."

 

[c7poker]

Wow, thx again for replies guys..

BUT

you still missing point, WHY NOONE SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN TO ME THOSE 2 DAYS..

When more things come at you that may not be by accident..

I do agree with most of you, those hands been my last bad beats so why should I lie.. may not say that hands been special, I already said that lol but look I lost two times the same way!! And both times I has 80 and he only 20% of chance to win!! (yes those nasty 66s!)

AND WHY NOONE TALK ABOUT: "WHAT IF THEY ARE REALLY GUILTY & MESSED MY PLAY UNFAIRLY..." - UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO AND THE WAY THEY WORK, HONEST COMPANY WOUND NEVER ACT THAT WAY!! (+ did you see that certificate?!.. whats that? farce..)

WHY (the hell) MOST OF YOU JUMP OVER SOME FACTS, SO WHAT IF THEY ARE BAD.. WHAT I (WE) MAY DO?! THATS MY QUESTION..

UNDERSTAND THEY CONFIRMED THAT (my complains!), AND I WILL POST YOU THEIR REPLIES..

and one more time: yes I playing now at Party & winning there.. BUT those $3,000++ I wouldnt left to stay at them.. NO, NO WAY!

SO WHAT YOU THINK I (WE) MAY DO + WHAT MORE PROOFS TO GET THEM SOMEHOW?!

p.s. Let me hear some facts here & what you think about my accusations, and jump over irelevant things.. some of you act the same as they did!.. and let we do not repeat things... all bad beats after that June 23rd c'mon what we speak here!! READ ME ALL BETS OVER 10BB I MAY NOT WIN + WHY NOONE OF YOU TAKING MY BET??? YOU WILL PLAY MY CARDS (AA, KK, AKs..) AND ME YOURS (27o, 38o..) WHAT BETTER PROOF YOU WANT?! (I am sure min 3 times by row you will win... so I will win bet )

 

[swampwitch]

One more time, ISNT weird that since that date June 22rd I been almost each day in plus after all minus!! And now I again winning at Party..

If you start losing at Party, what will you blame for that?

Seriously though, why would any poker room, regardless of software or group, give a rat's ass if YOU IN PARTICULAR were winning or not? Many of the best players in the world play online as well as in "real life", and yet you hear nothing from them that any online outfit is "out to get them". You're no more special than the rest of us schmucks.

 

[c7poker]

Do you limp into these pots? I'm thinking you do.

Some times yes, but some times no I bet and raise.. whats your point and what that has with final issu? And what is interesting here, I always losin to 1 opponent!! Did you noticed that??

 

[winbig]

I will give you credit for one things. You certainly have the Phil Hellmuth act down when you suffer an allegedly "bad beat."

Yep, the only difference here is Phil is one of the best players in the world...and most of the time he actually has a reason to bitch.

You really need to brush up on % of how far you're ahead or behind in a hand dude. You apparently think having the nuts on the flop cannot be beaten, but when you do get beat you think it's rigged; even though they still had a decent chance to win.

i7, as it's been said before, your version of a bad beat is very misconstrued. The only beat I see there is hand #1.

You leave out betting details on #3, and all details on #4. Why? How large was your flush vs his nut flush? Were there 4 to a flush on the board or 3? Were either of you betting the draw, or were you both limping to the river? Did anyone have a pair to fall back on if the flush didn't hit?

Needless to say these hands are normal. In no way does it imply that it's rigged.

I suggest you stick, or move to live poker instead of online. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

And, as it's been said before, why would they single you out?


And for losing to one player those 4 hands....maybe because he could read you like a book, and outplay you? All of which he did except for hand #1 where he drew out on you.

Like hand 2, he put a weak raise in there to keep you in the pot when he knew he had you beat. Same thing for the turn.

What was his bet on the river? Was he all in on turn?

 

[c7poker]

Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it

talk more about important things & answer me on some of my Qs and accusations..


Interesting new look Bryan, looks interesting n nice

 

[winbig]

Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it

I think it has everything to do with it. You claim it's a setup, but if you would have pushed them out of the hand in the first place, you wouldn't have gotten beat. Nothing makes up for bad play.

 

[Keyser]

Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it

talk more about important things & answer me on some of my Qs and accusations..


Interesting new look Bryan, looks interesting n nice

You've posted numerous incoherent, rambling posts with little in the way of facts. You've shown one screenshot of being folded with a winning hand and a whole lot of speculation about how the casino is rigged against you with little in the way of evidence. A claim that you are normally a winner so if you are losing, it must be rigged is NOT evidence.

The only hands you posted as your evidence, which we are taking your word on as true , show that you had a little bad luck on one hand, some good luck followed by bad luck on another, and two hands which you were losing the whole time. The fact that you cited these hands as "bad beats" only goes to prove what most people here suspect, namely that you are simply a bad poker player.

You cannot possibly expect anyone to take your "wager" seriously. Even though I shouldn't I will indulge you in your fantasy and tell you that if you were to try to set up such a wager, the casino would subsequently blacklist both parties since you would need to collude by telling each other what hands you have and discuss the wagering, which I am quite sure is a severe violation of their T&Cs. They would probably also confiscate all funds in both accounts.

I also am amused by the fact that you faulted their support for not speaking English in your first post when the grammar in your posts is, ahem, "below average." Im guessing that their English is probably better than yours.

And finally, lets not forget your anti-semitic conspiracy theory. A sure-fire way to earn brownie points on this forum!

 

[c7poker]

I do not plan to discuse with some of you about irrelevant or stupid & also well known things!

About my english: "I been very pissed after last chat I had with marketing director at PlayTech.." + isnt easy to say all and to be precise & right to the point..

BUT few of you surely missed, not point, POINTS. (you wouldnt see tree in wood for sure )

AND LET ME ASK YOU: HOW YOU MAY SO STUPID OR STUBBORN TO DEFEND THEM? LET WE PLAY THOSE HANDS I SUGGEST TO SEE WAHT WILL HAPPEN!

NO ISNT POSSIBLE TO BE ALL THE TIME IN MINUS, AND HAS ALL BAD BEATS. IF SOME OF YOU ARE REALLY IDIOTS TO NOT REALISE THAT FACT THEN OKAY WE DO NOT HAS ANYTHING MORE TO DISCUSE.

And as last let me ask you: how many money you earnt or do you has any 1st place with several hundreds of players..??! I DO HAS, WON EVEN 2400 players and several times.

And one more question for you: how would you react in situation as mine, after 1st day your play been messed with their software & another you simply been kicked from tournament, and everything worked fine?! (at last they are in obligation to answer me what happen and caused that + surely compensate caused loss!! = thats how serious n honest company will do for sure!! not playing games & just buying time till you leave & forget all and say what the hell.. f**k my $3,000.. no thats not me)


Last try to point you whats important what is not.. read again what happen to me, how they work & why they hide informations, talk with thier support alive as I did after several times they do not know any more for who they work is it Titan, CD or Noble.. and last is nor any serious reply from mentioned companies I received yet (maybe I will post that 1 I got indirectly from iPoker, then you wil see!)

 

[tennis_balls]

c7....from the little evidence you have provided here, it sounds as though you may be a decent tournament player. However your cash game and bankroll management skills are lacking.

while it sucks that you hit a down streak, you will never improve your game until you can at least accept that your play may have contributed to your going bust.

why don't you go to another site and prove to us that you are a great player. i double-dare you to take me up on this offer!