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Old 8th September 2006, 02:20 AM
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my last 4 'bad beats'

1.
me: T7c p1: 66 p2: XX p3: XX

flop: 9s 8d 6h -> he bet $8 I call, p2,3 fold

turn: Kd -> he bet $34, me raise $63.5, he calls &

river: 8 (((((

2.
me: AKh (bad & loose) player1: As 9d p2: XX

flop: Ad 8h 9h -> they check to me I bet $3, p2 raise $6, p1 raise $9 I call, p2 fold

turn: 8s -> he bet $14.9 I call

river: Ac even boat didnt saved me (((

3.
me: T9c p1: 66 p2: XX

flop: 3h 2c 6c

turn: 8c (my flush!)

river 3c (he getting boat, same situation as No1!)

4.
just several mins before 3. same player p1 won me, we both had flush at river only he had nut flush!
Hand 1: There are 10 cards not reveled that can beat you on the river(One 6, 3 8s, 3 9s, and 3 Kings). Since we know what 8 of the remaining cards are based on your description, that is 10/44 = 23%. Certainly not unheard of.

Hand 2: He has you beat on the flop! Not to mention the turn and river. Top two pair versus your top pair and K kicker. If you would have won that hand, it would have been a bad beat for him! Yes, you had the best hand pre-flop, but please! Best hand pre-flop does not a conspiracy make.

Hand 3: He not only has the best hand pre-flop, he has you beat at the flop. Yes, you caught your flush card on the turn, but once again he has 10 cards that can beat you on the river. I can hardly call this a bad beat.

Hand 4: Player catches same flush card that you needed on river, only he has the better flush. Meaning he had you beat before the river as well. And you are complaining?!?!?!?!?

I will give you credit for one things. You certainly have the Phil Hellmuth act down when you suffer an allegedly "bad beat."
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Wow, thx again for replies guys..

BUT

you still missing point, WHY NOONE SPEAK ABOUT WHAT HAPPEN TO ME THOSE 2 DAYS..

When more things come at you that may not be by accident..

I do agree with most of you, those hands been my last bad beats so why should I lie.. may not say that hands been special, I already said that lol but look I lost two times the same way!! And both times I has 80 and he only 20% of chance to win!! (yes those nasty 66s!)

AND WHY NOONE TALK about: "WHAT IF THEY ARE REALLY GUILTY & MESSED MY PLAY UNFAIRLY..." - UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO AND THE WAY THEY WORK, HONEST COMPANY WOUND NEVER ACT THAT WAY!! (+ did you see that certificate?!.. whats that? farce..)

WHY (the hell) MOST OF YOU JUMP OVER SOME FACTS, SO WHAT IF THEY ARE BAD.. WHAT I (WE) MAY DO?! THATS MY QUESTION..

UNDERSTAND THEY CONFIRMED THAT (my complains!), AND I WILL POST YOU THEIR REPLIES..

and one more time: yes I playing now at Party & winning there.. BUT those $3,000++ I wouldnt left to stay at them.. NO, NO WAY!

SO WHAT YOU THINK I (WE) MAY DO + WHAT MORE PROOFS TO GET THEM SOMEHOW?!

p.s. Let me hear some facts here & what you think about my accusations, and jump over irelevant things.. some of you act the same as they did!.. and let we do not repeat things... all bad beats after that June 23rd c'mon what we speak here!! READ ME ALL BETS OVER 10BB I MAY NOT WIN + WHY NOONE OF YOU TAKING MY BET??? YOU WILL PLAY MY CARDS (AA, KK, AKs..) AND ME YOURS (27o, 38o..) WHAT BETTER PROOF YOU WANT?! (I am sure min 3 times by row you will win... so I will win bet )
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One more time, ISNT weird that since that date June 22rd I been almost each day in plus after all minus!! And now I again winning at Party..
If you start losing at Party, what will you blame for that?

Seriously though, why would any poker room, regardless of software or group, give a rat's ass if YOU IN PARTICULAR were winning or not? Many of the best players in the world play online as well as in "real life", and yet you hear nothing from them that any online outfit is "out to get them". You're no more special than the rest of us schmucks.
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Do you limp into these pots? I'm thinking you do.
Some times yes, but some times no I bet and raise.. whats your point and what that has with final issu? And what is interesting here, I always losin to 1 opponent!! Did you noticed that??
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I will give you credit for one things. You certainly have the Phil Hellmuth act down when you suffer an allegedly "bad beat."



Yep, the only difference here is Phil is one of the best players in the world...and most of the time he actually has a reason to bitch.

You really need to brush up on % of how far you're ahead or behind in a hand dude. You apparently think having the nuts on the flop cannot be beaten, but when you do get beat you think it's rigged; even though they still had a decent chance to win.

i7, as it's been said before, your version of a bad beat is very misconstrued. The only beat I see there is hand #1.

You leave out betting details on #3, and all details on #4. Why? How large was your flush vs his nut flush? Were there 4 to a flush on the board or 3? Were either of you betting the draw, or were you both limping to the river? Did anyone have a pair to fall back on if the flush didn't hit?

Needless to say these hands are normal. In no way does it imply that it's rigged.

I suggest you stick, or move to live poker instead of online. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

And, as it's been said before, why would they single you out?


And for losing to one player those 4 hands....maybe because he could read you like a book, and outplay you? All of which he did except for hand #1 where he drew out on you.

Like hand 2, he put a weak raise in there to keep you in the pot when he knew he had you beat. Same thing for the turn.

What was his bet on the river? Was he all in on turn?
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Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it

talk more about important things & answer me on some of my Qs and accusations..


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Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it
I think it has everything to do with it. You claim it's a setup, but if you would have pushed them out of the hand in the first place, you wouldn't have gotten beat. Nothing makes up for bad play.
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Wow what few of you trying to say here "I playing only champs at those $1, $2.. tables" c'mon..

And one more time let me hear some answers & or facts.. we surely has different playing styles n knowledges.. no need to discuse about it

talk more about important things & answer me on some of my Qs and accusations..


Interesting new look Bryan, looks interesting n nice


You've posted numerous incoherent, rambling posts with little in the way of facts. You've shown one screenshot of being folded with a winning hand and a whole lot of speculation about how the casino is rigged against you with little in the way of evidence. A claim that you are normally a winner so if you are losing, it must be rigged is NOT evidence.

The only hands you posted as your evidence, which we are taking your word on as true , show that you had a little bad luck on one hand, some good luck followed by bad luck on another, and two hands which you were losing the whole time. The fact that you cited these hands as "bad beats" only goes to prove what most people here suspect, namely that you are simply a bad poker player.

You cannot possibly expect anyone to take your "wager" seriously. Even though I shouldn't I will indulge you in your fantasy and tell you that if you were to try to set up such a wager, the casino would subsequently blacklist both parties since you would need to collude by telling each other what hands you have and discuss the wagering, which I am quite sure is a severe violation of their T&Cs. They would probably also confiscate all funds in both accounts.

I also am amused by the fact that you faulted their support for not speaking English in your first post when the grammar in your posts is, ahem, "below average." Im guessing that their English is probably better than yours.

And finally, lets not forget your anti-semitic conspiracy theory. A sure-fire way to earn brownie points on this forum!
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I do not plan to discuse with some of you about irrelevant or stupid & also well known things!

About my english: "I been very pissed after last chat I had with marketing director at PlayTech.." + isnt easy to say all and to be precise & right to the point..

BUT few of you surely missed, not point, POINTS. (you wouldnt see tree in wood for sure )

AND LET ME ASK YOU: HOW YOU MAY SO STUPID OR STUBBORN TO DEFEND THEM? LET WE PLAY THOSE HANDS I SUGGEST TO SEE WAHT WILL HAPPEN!

NO ISNT POSSIBLE TO BE ALL THE TIME IN MINUS, AND HAS ALL BAD BEATS. IF SOME OF YOU ARE REALLY IDIOTS TO NOT REALISE THAT FACT THEN OKAY WE DO NOT HAS ANYTHING MORE TO DISCUSE.

And as last let me ask you: how many money you earnt or do you has any 1st place with several hundreds of players..??! I DO HAS, WON EVEN 2400 players and several times.

And one more question for you: how would you react in situation as mine, after 1st day your play been messed with their software & another you simply been kicked from tournament, and everything worked fine?! (at last they are in obligation to answer me what happen and caused that + surely compensate caused loss!! = thats how serious n honest company will do for sure!! not playing games & just buying time till you leave & forget all and say what the hell.. f**k my $3,000.. no thats not me)


Last try to point you whats important what is not.. read again what happen to me, how they work & why they hide informations, talk with thier support alive as I did after several times they do not know any more for who they work is it Titan, CD or Noble.. and last is nor any serious reply from mentioned companies I received yet (maybe I will post that 1 I got indirectly from iPoker, then you wil see!)
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c7....from the little evidence you have provided here, it sounds as though you may be a decent tournament player. However your cash game and bankroll management skills are lacking.

while it sucks that you hit a down streak, you will never improve your game until you can at least accept that your play may have contributed to your going bust.

why don't you go to another site and prove to us that you are a great player. i double-dare you to take me up on this offer!
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