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    Wingows Poker Warning

    Stumbled on this URL (remove XXX)

    XXXhttp://www.wingows.com/integrity.html

    Just that should scare people away.

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    Are you referring to the fact it that appears to have been copied from somewhere else and sloppily edited?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrandMaster View Post
    Are you referring to the fact it that appears to have been copied from somewhere else and sloppily edited?

    lol...I would think that's the case....I seriously doubt this is a PartyGaming site...

    Also interesting, their support number is 1+419-xxxxxxx....419 is an Ohio area code (US)......wtf?

    Sting?

    "Players must register using their true and legal identity, and they are required to provide their complete mailing address and contact information when creating an account at PartyGaming. Registering with a false name or mailing address will cause the associated account to be subject to closure. Random identity checks and other security reviews are performed on a regular basis to protect the integrity of the system.
    Wingows Support is available on MSN Messenger with support@wingows.com address.

    Just add this address to your MSN Messenger contacts and you can chat with our support for 24/7.
    What a joke...
    Last edited by winbig; 16th August 2006 at 09:03 PM.
    Operators: If you don't know what Transparency means, then here you go.....now how about practicing it?

    Transparency, as used in the humanities and in a social context more generally, implies openness, communication, and accountability. It is a metaphorical extension of the meaning a "transparent" object is one that can be seen through. ...

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    The irony that the file name is integrity.html. Nothing like site scraping T&C's and naming the page that. Nice find.

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    Another neat little tidbit...all the registration info is masked for this domain....imagine that..

    Search Results - wingows.com

    Owner (Registrant Contact)

    Name: Privacy Domain
    Company: Privacy Domain Services
    Address:

    957 Route 33
    Suite #329

    City: Hamilton Square
    State: New Jersey
    Country: US
    Zip: 08690
    Tel No: 1 4197455755
    Fax No: 1 4197455760
    Email:

    Administrative Contact

    Name: Privacy Domain
    Company: Privacy Domain Services
    Address:

    957 Route 33
    Suite #329

    City: Hamilton Square
    State: New Jersey
    Country: US
    Zip: 08690
    Tel No: 1 4197455755
    Fax No: 1 4197455760
    Email:

    Technical Contact

    Name: Privacy Domain
    Company: Privacy Domain Services
    Address:

    957 Route 33
    Suite #329

    City: Hamilton Square
    State: New Jersey
    Country: US
    Zip: 08690
    Tel No: 1 4197455755
    Fax No: 1 4197455760
    Email:

    Nameserver Details

    NameServer: ns6.4s4.com
    NameServer: ns7.4s4.com

    Record Details

    Creation Date: Mar 27 2006
    Expiration Date: Mar 27 2016
    If you ask me, some american owns this....and runs "support" out of his house...why else have a support number that's in the USA? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    Another neat little tidbit...all the registration info is masked for this domain....imagine that..



    If you ask me, some american owns this....and runs "support" out of his house...why else have a support number that's in the USA? lol

    Actually if you dig a little deeper...

    wingows.com Registration Service Provided By: LOTANIC

    Now you go take a look at the servers:
    ns7.4s4.com
    ns6.4s4.com

    4S4.COM Registration Service Provided By: LOTANIC

    Then do a who is on the contact email for 4s4.com:

    kodag.com Registration Service Provided By: LOTANIC

    All point back to:

    Domain Name: KODAG.COM

    Registrant:
    Bron
    Joe bron *******@kodag.com)
    957 Route 33 #329
    Hamilton Square
    NJ,08690
    US
    Tel. +1.4136771448

    Creation Date: 16-Jun-2000
    Expiration Date: 16-Jun-2007

    Domain servers in listed order:
    ns33.g3m.net
    ns34.g3m.net


    Administrative Contact:
    Bron
    Joe bron *******@kodag.com)
    957 Route 33 #329
    Hamilton Square
    NJ,08690
    US
    Tel. +1.4136771448

    Technical Contact:
    Bron
    Joe bron *******@kodag.com)
    957 Route 33 #329
    Hamilton Square
    NJ,08690
    US
    Tel. +1.4136771448

    Billing Contact:
    Bron
    Joe bron *******@kodag.com)
    957 Route 33 #329
    Hamilton Square
    NJ,08690
    US
    Tel. +1.4136771448

    I'd say this is the owner of wingows!

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    Looking over at XXXhttp://whois.domaintools.com/wingows.com

    It shows another domain owned by this person:

    XXXhttp://whois.domaintools.com/thepokerfather.com

    Interest entry attached to this domain:

    Blacklist Status: Currently Listed (eg is a know spammer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trezz View Post
    Actually if you dig a little deeper...

    wingows.com Registration Service Provided By: LOTANIC

    Now you go take a look at the servers:
    ns7.4s4.com
    ns6.4s4.com

    I'd say this is the owner of wingows!
    Actually, that would be the owner of the "cloaking" service theyusing to hide the registration info for wingows.com with, wouldn't it?
    Operators: If you don't know what Transparency means, then here you go.....now how about practicing it?

    Transparency, as used in the humanities and in a social context more generally, implies openness, communication, and accountability. It is a metaphorical extension of the meaning a "transparent" object is one that can be seen through. ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by winbig View Post
    Actually, that would be the owner of the "cloaking" service theyusing to hide the registration info for wingows.com with, wouldn't it?

    No, I did a couple of cross references and kept coming up with this guys info

    The other factor, it's not too often, actually it's more like never, that you'll see the Contact, Billing and Tech of a hosting company being all the same.
    Viewing the same info means it's a privately owned server. (could be housed at rackspace, the planet or any number of facilities in the US).
    This is a sign that owner of the server that wingows is hosted on, is also owner of wingows too.

    Edit: Did a tracert of 4s4.com (wingows server) and it's sitting here - XXXhttp://whois.domaintools.com/nozonenet.com

    nozonenet.com is just the server's hosting location and is not associated to wingows.
    Last edited by AussieDave; 17th August 2006 at 11:48 AM. Reason: adding more info

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