Moneybookers hack

**paganes** · 22nd January 2010, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by winbig

Did you change your passwords before or after you cleared your laptop? If before, I'd suggest changing them again just in case

What did you do to clear your computer?

I changed my passwords after clearing.Use antivir,antispyvare,antitrojan.
And i delete my emails.In last time i sended scan of my documents (ID card,credit card) in many casinos from my emails and this documents was saved in my emails history.

**Kova** · 13th February 2010, 09:38 PM

Today I lost 2387 Euros !

Trojan + my MB login = no more money

But I don't get it, how did he know my date of birth ?

He sent 960 Euros to moneybookers@betclick.com !

Rest he sent to 2 randome addresses, hotmail, yahoo.fr ?

But how he knew my date of birth ? I didn't send money to anyone in last few days, I'm sure I had trojan for just 1-2 days max when AVG started to act, and private firewall started to close..

What happend ? I sent money to 1 bookie, he loged in 10 mins after, and send money in sequences of 10 mins, to betclick, to 1 then 2nd mail, 0.5 fee is only on last 2 mails, but how .. I still wonder.

I had avg, privatefirewall and windows firewall at the time ..

Is there chance I get money back ?

**AussieDave** · 15th February 2010, 11:09 AM

All these Moneybooker hacks have me questioning if it's an insider job. To many reports of MB account holders having their accounts hacked.

Someone attempted hack into mine a few months ago. They didn't gain access. Even if they did I don't keep funds in the account or access to funds via the account.

I've been with Neteller since 2000 and although you hear of the occasional purported hack, it's nothing on the scale (a regular occurrence) of which Moneybooker accounts are hacked.

I can only surmise from my personal experience that Moneybookers are not using varied security methods to protect account holders.

Because some attempted to hack my account and it was not detected by MB, I instructed Moneybookers to lock my account. I shant be opening it again.

From my understanding UK players are protected however anyone else and your own your own

Cheers

Dave

**Webzcas** · 15th February 2010, 11:15 AM

I sympathise with your situation. If your account was funded by a credit or debit card to enable these transactions to go through, issue a charge back with your respective bank immediately.

I've not used moneybookers so can't help you with their fraud procedure.

Same thing happened to me several years ago with my neteller account. Thankfully the person trying to access my account, didn't get in and Neteller subsequently locked my account.

I think this is a perfect time to remind everyone that uses any form of ewallet including paypal, that any bank card they associate with it is not linked to your life savings.

Do what I do and fund them with a credit card where ever possible. That way, if you are unfortunate and unlucky enough to be on the receiving end of fraud, you will not be wiped out - having to spend weeks to get your money back through the proper channels.

**XOXOXOXOXOX** · 15th February 2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by AussieDave

All these Moneybooker hacks have me questioning if it's an insider job. To many reports of MB account holders having their accounts hacked.

I have the same feeling...

I posted here that my visa was used for some fraudulent transactions last summer. Eventually i was able to capture what i believe is a phishing page that was saved in my browsers history - notice the spelling.

The page looked like a real page and actually displayed quite a few details including my name, account balance and some details of my credit card!! All I had to do is to punch in the full CC number, CVC and DOB.

So looks like the page was connected to the real back-end.

**AussieDave** · 16th February 2010, 06:41 PM

Hi All,

The other thing, use a password that is made up of letters and numbers. Preferably Upper and lowercase.

Where possible (if the system allows it) include EG *!^<} (u get this idea).

Aim for at least 9 characters.

You can also use the following URL to general a random password based on your required criteria.

http://www.goodpassword.com/

Also don't store your passwords on your PC...If you have many, keep them in hard copy away from your PC.

Avoid using the same password/user name combination & or passwords such as:
blackcat1
redcar3
mydogblue

ect...ect...ect

Cheers

Dave

**Tower-Adrian** · 18th February 2010, 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=winbig;286404]I don't use anything, but I'm special

I use Firefox exclusively, so there's no worries about getting anything from IE's numerous holes. Other than that, I keep XP updated and am careful about what sites I visit and what I download. I've had 1 virus in roughly 15 years, and even that was over a decade ago.

I would be careful about giving this kind of advice to people. You may think that you only visit safe pages and Firefox does do a good job at keeping away some of the nastier exploits that IE leaves open, but my friend told me the same thing one day and I within a day I had gained access to his PC as a lesson in safety just by being connected to the internet (no browser open) is still enough to allow someone to do what they want. Of course I did nothing malicious, it was more to prove my point with him that he was not safe.
I would suggest AVG Free or Avast as a Antivirus but really without a trusty firewall up and running... good luck. And do not trust Windows Firewall LOL. This will keep 99% of people and viruses off your machine, the other 1% will be someone you know as my friend soon learned.

**vinylweatherman** · 19th February 2010, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by XOXOXOXOXOX

I have the same feeling...

I posted here that my visa was used for some fraudulent transactions last summer. Eventually i was able to capture what i believe is a phishing page that was saved in my browsers history - notice the spelling.

The page looked like a real page and actually displayed quite a few details including my name, account balance and some details of my credit card!! All I had to do is to punch in the full CC number, CVC and DOB.

So looks like the page was connected to the real back-end.

It does, Moneybookers SHOULD have something in place to detect and block this. No WONDER there are so many hacks if the phishing page can get your ACTUAL details from the Moneybookers back end. This should be IMPOSSIBLE, or they have to use details they got from other sources.

Getting date of birth IS easier than you might think though - it is on public record, so once they have enough info about you, they can check against such records for DOB. Social network sites such as Facebook are also being used to get hold of some information.

**AussieDave** · 21st February 2010, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by kauphy

hey guys you need to get a verification engine. i had somebody a while back get all my neteller infor by sending me a phlishing page and this was back when phlishing was something that was just coming out. at least i did,nt hear about it until after it happened to me and i know there was a thead on this site about it happening to alot of people. this was back when people in the u.s.a could use neteller to put money in the casinos on line. i downloaded a verification engine and every webpage i go to it tells me if it a real page or a phlishing site. i love it it helps so much to know that i,m on a real site and to know that no one is going to get anything from me again. so please think about getting one it helps so much.

I use Avira Anti Vir Premium. It's not free but it's worth the investment of around 39 Euro.

Not only does it alert you to web pages that are not Kosher but also blocks sites that have hidden scripts and other dodgy payloads.

I also use Sunbelt Personal Firewall. This prevents a large gambit of internet crap from obtaining access to your PC.

As far as malware, trojans, dialers, spyware and the myriad of other nasty critters, I've always used Spybot Search and Destroy. That is a freeware program. Its received rave reviews over many years. In my opinion it's one of the best around.

I also go one better by using my ADSL modem's firewall. This is not software driven.
It allows me to set-up what is allowed in and out via IP allocation to and from.

You should also make sure your not allowing netbios or File Printing and Sharing with Microsoft Networks.
Also removing Clients for Microsoft Network from your Local Area Connection is a wise move, (But check with your ISP. Some require this to operate).

These days you really have to protect yourself. It really is a jungle out there!

Cheers

Dave

**zebedy** · 22nd February 2010, 10:21 AM

I was advised to install Rapport by my bank as extra security, it supposedly

locks down your browser once you connect to a sensitive website such as your bank. Any malicious software that tries to ride on the browser is left out of the locked down browser, and cannot access your sensitive information and transactions. Rapport also locks down communication between your browser and the bank, preventing any network-based attack from diverting traffic to fraudulent locations.

It also works on the moneybookers site, but im unsure if its available to non UK peeps.

http://www.natwest.com/personal/onli.../download.ashx

http://www.trusteer.com/solutions/ho...nline-security