b4playing

[daera]

Bring it.

What are you talking about? Bring what?

[lojo]

In a nutshell the affilliate owns a player for life.

What the OP was talkin about is anybody's guess, think he said they were crooks;go figger: say, NO.

[FelixtheCat]

Originally Posted by lojo

In a nutshell the affilliate owns a player for life.

What the OP was talkin about is anybody's guess, think he said they were crooks;go figger: say, NO.

I still didn't get paid the money they owe me.. I even have the statement.. I signed in the mail and sent them, no money for 2 weeks now , not surprised at all!

[lojo]

Originally Posted by FelixtheCat

I still didn't get paid the money they owe me.. I even have the statement.. I signed in the mail and sent them, no money for 2 weeks now , not surprised at all!

From what I can see, they are crooked. I could be wrong, they can sure come on here and defend their product, methods of operation, and motive. It is not enough for certain valuable affiliates to 'ignore' changes in the marketplace; I believe it is their responsibility to expose them and challenge them publicly.

This 'tool' might be the best thing since sliced cliche's, but, with my limited knowledge, I think it stinks to high heaven.

How will this make life better for the player?

If b4playing doesn't become transparent soon I will contact the few Industry Reps I know and get their opinions. If b4playing is found 'to be wanting' - if need be - I will publicly challenge casinos to not allow the use of this product. The affiliate business is not uncrackable; it just needs to change its ways and start policing itself.

[FelixtheCat]

Originally Posted by lojo

From what I can see, they are crooked. I could be wrong, they can sure come on here and defend their product, methods of operation, and motive. It is not enough for certain valuable affiliates to 'ignore' changes in the marketplace; I believe it is their responsibility to expose them and challenge them publicly.

This 'tool' might be the best thing since sliced cliche's, but, with my limited knowledge, I think it stinks to high heaven.

How will this make life better for the player?

If b4playing doesn't become transparent soon I will contact the few Industry Reps I know and get their opinions. If b4playing is found 'to be wanting' - if need be - I will publicly challenge casinos to not allow the use of this product. The affiliate business is not uncrackable; it just needs to change its ways and start policing itself.

Finally someone hearing me out! Thanks lojo! Where are they to defend themselves? I wonder

[lojo]

Originally Posted by FelixtheCat

Finally someone hearing me out! Thanks lojo! Where are they to defend themselves? I wonder

Would you like me to invite them to this thread?

Put on your pyth helmet, it could get messy

[FelixtheCat]

Originally Posted by lojo

Would you like me to invite them to this thread?

Put on your pyth helmet, it could get messy

Bring them on!!! But i doubt they'll show up!

[lojo]

Originally Posted by FelixtheCat

Bring them on!!! But i doubt they'll show up!

I would have sent you a copy of a letter via Personal Message, but they don't have contact info and live chat was down as well, so here's something anyway

[FelixtheCat]

Originally Posted by lojo

I would have sent you a copy of a letter via Personal Message, but they don't have contact info and live chat was down as well, so here's something anyway

Oh, you are the man! BTW,a few days ago,they sent me a letter form their lawyer threatening to sue me if i don't stop "hurting their company" , If revealing the truth is hurting the company then who's actually hurting their company??? Unbelivable!!!

[lojo]

Originally Posted by FelixtheCat

Oh, you are the man! BTW,a few days ago,they sent me a letter form their lawyer threatening to sue me if i don't stop "hurting their company" , If revealing the truth is hurting the company then who's actually hurting their company??? Unbelivable!!!

You might wish to retain a lawyer... do any work pro bono in Israel? Is b4playing an Israeli company? I'm okay with my statements so far (as long as the moderators are) and if the company rep or lawyer comes on here and denies any wrongdoing I'll retract my observations until the whole truth is exposed... then I'll restate them in a more informed way or apologize publicly.
imo I haven't slandered them and there is no libel... if i have defamed them I'll be banned from this forum, but will continue the quest for truth by other means if necessary.

Until you mentioned their legal counsel involved in your issue, I would have thought they wouldn't respond but now I think they will.

Good luck, felix