Online gambling deposits are way too much work!

**silkprint** · 27th August 2007, 03:18 AM

I hear ya Kathy . I miss those ole ACH days myself

**lojo** · 27th August 2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by silkprint

I hear ya Kathy . I miss those ole ACH days myself

Yip, my game took a serious dump when I lost the ability to move money where and when I wanted to. Just broke my stride somehow.
I'm glad our northern neighbors still have options, even if it's a hassle it's easier than for us.

**Dewberry** · 29th August 2007, 06:28 PM

I've been using Instadebit for quite a while and never had a problem with them. I have had several withdrawals from casino to Instadebit and then to my bank account and all of them have gone well. Just takes a few days to get to the bank. Great thing is - there are no fees.

There are many casinos that don't take Instadebit though and for those I use Moneybookers or a Moneymart prepaid card.

**LANE13** · 8th September 2007, 07:11 AM

[QUOTE=Dewberry;184005]I've been using Instadebit for quite a while and never had a problem with them. I have had several withdrawals from casino to Instadebit and then to my bank account and all of them have gone well. Just takes a few days to get to the bank. Great thing is - there are no fees.

There are many casinos that don't take Instadebit though and for those I use Moneybookers or a Moneymart prepaid card.[/QUOTE

I did not think you could use a Moneymart prepaid Mastercard for online gambling????

**Koitenshin** · 8th September 2007, 10:11 AM

US player here. You're not kidding about having to jump through hoops. I have to use ewalletxpress. They charge you fees just for transferring money from your bank account into their account. It's getting worse and worse I tell you.

**vinylweatherman** · 11th September 2007, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Koitenshin

US player here. You're not kidding about having to jump through hoops. I have to use ewalletxpress. They charge you fees just for transferring money from your bank account into their account. It's getting worse and worse I tell you.

Quite; soon the US Government will lose the ability to tell the difference between Gaming transactions and donations/receipts for "proper" criminal purposes.
The more hoops gamblers have to jump through, the worse this will get.

Easy, send $100, and when you receive $10,000 to fund your terrorist cell or whatever, just own up, "sorry M'lud*, I have a gambling problem, I'll get treatment ASAP"

UK Court Judge - no idea what you Americans call them when in the dock

**nielsenj** · 12th September 2007, 07:47 PM

You are quite right. Depositing to (and withdrawing from) online casinos is much work for North Americans but then again that is exactly what the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act is all about. Putting pressure on the banks to monitor money transfers from and to online gaming sites and hunting down e-wallets in order to protect the population against the immoral online gambling industry is the politics of a government that can be voted out of power next year. Please do so.

**lojo** · 12th September 2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by nielsenj

... politics of a government that can be voted out of power next year. Please do so.

We can only hope we will have the power to vote them out. And that can be read in as many ways as there are people who read it

**SeattleSinner** · 13th September 2007, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by LANE13

I have also been reading other peoples posts about banks freezing online gambling cashout payments from online casinos due to the fact that online gambling is now considered to be" criminal activity" .

Where did you read this? I'd be curious to learn more about this as none of my checks have been blocked.

**vinylweatherman** · 16th September 2007, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by SeattleSinner

Where did you read this? I'd be curious to learn more about this as none of my checks have been blocked.

The biggest case was the freezing of some $55 Million paid out by Neteller to US citizens. It was known that Neteller only processes for gambling, so the case was that this $55 Million was a transfer from gambling sites, through Neteller, to US players.

There was also the case of Jackpot Factory having money frozen in transit at around the same time.
Money is only frozen if it can be traced as gambling. Your checks are probably working because they have not yet been identified as proceeds from gambling. They can't simply block ALL payments from abroad, it would harm the economy, neither can they check offshore processors too deeply too soon, there are just so many of them. At the moment, banks don't even have a specific directive to intervene, so some banks cause trouble, while others are no problem. I expect that as businesses the banks will do as little as possible in order to be seen as complying with the new law - they will not spend loads of money investigating all the offshore checks & transfers they receive.
This whole thing is a big mistake, as methods to "launder" casino deposits and withdrawals are evolving at a much faster rate due to necessity. It is often said that war causes great advances in technology, so this "war" against those who will continue to do their best to play will serve to enhance the skills and methods for money laundering. This will end up helping the REAL villans and terrorists, as they will adopt many of the methods casinos seem to be getting away with for getting funds into the US.
I knew very little about how money laundering worked when I started playing, now I have learned a great deal through seeing how casinos are working around the restrictive rules and seemingly getting away with it.