eCOGRA needs to make a decision about JACKPOT FACTORY... NOW!!

**Chatmaster** · 5th June 2006, 11:42 AM

We will probably have a resolution at the end of the day where eCOGRA will state that they have successfully removed all their inflammatory and related nonsense from their site and that they are happy with that.

From a large scale eCOGRA supporter I am truly ashamed of eCOGRA's ignorance towards 888.com's conduct in the Blog spamming as well. It seems that either eCOGRA simply don't feel there is anything wrong with the conduct that 888.com made themselves guilty of or they do not understand the true implications of the spamming techniques used by them or their affiliates.

I need to take the following quote from their home page.

eCOGRA is the independent standards authority of the online gaming industry, specifically overseeing fair gaming, player protection and responsible operator conduct.

Prompt payments, safe storage of information, random games, honest advertising, and responsible behavior by the online casino and poker room operator are the primary concerns of every player, so that means they are also the primary concerns of eCOGRA, "eCommerce and Online Gaming Regulation and Assurance".

eCOGRA, if you haven't noticed yet we need you in this industry to wrap these casinos like 888 and Jackpot Factory over the knuckles. If you do not act on these clearly guilty actions by these 2 operators by stripping them of eCOGRA seal even if it is for a year of what use are you to the industry. Both of these actions were completely unacceptable and without a doubt very conscious decisions made by operators clearly hunger for more $$$$. I personally feel that eCOGRA has no choice here and we are watching you!

**vtlady** · 5th June 2006, 01:17 PM

Like I said before eCogra is just a yes group. They are all hand picked by the casinos with the seal. Have you noticed that only microgamming casinos are members? Whats that say? Jackpot Factory doesn't practice responsible gaming and could care less about the poor people in their stories. My guess is their all made up stories. A real bunch of S--T. People should stop playing at all eCogra casinos.

**Chatmaster** · 5th June 2006, 02:12 PM

Hi vtlady

I am afraid it isn't that simple. I believe that eCOGRA is facing some of it's first really difficult decisions and from truely unexpected operators. I am sure that they will make the right decision eventually and I am sure that posts like yours should give them the message that they do not have much of a choice as a wrong decision here will hurt their reputation very badly. However, most operators with their seal is still reliable and trusted so I do not agree with your sentiment with regards to other operators with their seal.

**Scooter7** · 5th June 2006, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chatmaster

Hi vtlady

I am afraid it isn't that simple. I believe that eCOGRA is facing some of it's first really difficult decisions and from truely unexpected operators. I am sure that they will make the right decision eventually and I am sure that posts like yours should give them the message that they do not have much of a choice as a wrong decision here will hurt their reputation very badly. However, most operators with their seal is still reliable and trusted so I do not agree with your sentiment with regards to other operators with their seal.

I'm taking a 'believe it when I see it' point of view on eCOGRA. I'm still not convinced that they are actually a watchdog with teeth.

As for the quality of other operators that have their seal, I think good and bad operators are completely independent of having a seal to 'prove it'. The fact that the majority of members are MG properties tells me that this isn't an industry-wide group. When all the big software developers get together in empowering a watchdog organization and giving it some measure of autonomy, I'll be far less of a skeptic.

**HCM** · 5th June 2006, 05:20 PM

Well it seems that whilst no official announcement the first action has been taken. Allslots are no longer on the ecogra site and the ecogra seal has been removed from the site....I just wonder what that means for the rest of the JF sitew where similar content was found.....Should the site or the operator lose the seal???

Anyway thanks ecogra for a good start.