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    Doubling on Blackjack

    Does anybody know what the rate of winning is when you double up on Blackjack using WoO strategy tables.

    If it is only 50/50 I don't see the point of ever doubling.

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    I calculated this some time last year and posted the results here.

    The probability of winning is usually 50%-60%, the probability of a tie is around 10%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antibes
    If it is only 50/50 I don't see the point of ever doubling.
    If it were, you wouldn't.

    I once did a very extensive manual run using D9 rules, and got 60/40 in favour. Factoring in soft doubles, it's probably about 56/44.

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    Jeez.

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    out of interest what are the odds for the following

    11v5
    11v6
    10v5
    10v6

    also if any can oblige what are the odds of the dealer drawing to 20/21 when starting on 5/6

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    I have never liked doubling on soft Aces but do according to the chart.

    So if I ignored them, and just doubled on 9, 10 or 11 it wouldn't make much difference then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antibes
    I have never liked doubling on soft Aces but do according to the chart.

    So if I ignored them, and just doubled on 9, 10 or 11 it wouldn't make much difference then.

    You're giving up about .1% when you don't double any soft totals. So about a $1 loss per $1000 wagered. (Based on the wizards Blackjack house edge calculator)

    Doesn't seem like much. But when you're playing a game with a .4% HA, you're increasing the house edge by over 25% when you don't double your soft totals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrollock
    out of interest what are the odds for the following

    11v5
    11v6
    10v5
    10v6
    Probability of win/tie/loss
    11v5 0.621849, 0.0699025, 0.308249
    11v6 0.635285, 0.0666062, 0.298109
    10v5 0.596309, 0.0709274, 0.332764
    10v6 0.612106, 0.0680937, 0.3198

    Quote Originally Posted by scrollock
    also if any can oblige what are the odds of the dealer drawing to 20/21 when starting on 5/6
    http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/bjapx2.html or http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/bjapx2b.html .
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    How on earth can you be so accurate with the odds!

    Different subject - splitting 8s.

    I cannot see the advantage of splitting 8s when the dealer has 10 or A, or even 9.

    I hit being 16 as most times I was losing 2 bets when I split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antibes
    How on earth can you be so accurate with the odds!
    No secret. All these numbers are listed in the BJmath glossary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by antibes
    I cannot see the advantage of splitting 8s when the dealer has 10 or A, or even 9.
    You lose less. Two eights as the initial card beat the hell out of one hard 16, whatever the dealer's showing.

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