What happened to Slotland?

[Slotmachine]

Didn't it use to be on Casinomeister's approved list? I don't see it anymore. Problems?
SM

[jamiester]

read this thread:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...and+fraudulent

I believe they were removed because of the issues outlined in that thread. There is much belief among players that there is something fishy about their software and their "98% certified" payout claim as well.

[guesswest]

read this thread:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...and+fraudulent

I believe they were removed because of the issues outlined in that thread. There is much belief among players that there is something fishy about their software and their "98% certified" payout claim as well.

I stumbled on that thread you linked just last week while browsing through the archives. I've got to say it's one of the best threads I've seen on here, with Chalupa making a very well articulated argument. A note on their 98% payout, i read somewhere, can't remember if it was here or another forum, that their stated payout includes bonuses. Which I agree is a bit fishy, as 98% to most would mean put in $1, get 98c out (obviously with huge variance).

[eek]

I read the thread up to page 6 with some surprise.

Slotlands unique system has been common knowledge for years.

Many moons ago when I used to run a site and considered putting up slotland I was also going to put up a slot-machine-only disclaimer with the link.
I'm surprised Bryan didn't do this, it would have saved any confusion at his end for the place.
Then gamblers could decide if they wanted to play there.
Theres plenty of slots only players around.

Apparently
Slotland has good cs.
They pay when you win.
They are one big slot machine.

What more do you guys want ??

[guesswest]

Well, I think it's all been pretty much covered in the original thread so will keep it brief. But in response to that - if you have a machine showing a deck of cards, it's pretty much universal law/etiquette that it works on real odds, the ones associated with a real deck of cards. True, it is in there, buried way deep in an ostensibly trivial part of their website - but most gamblers are going to take adherence to real odds in video poker as a given. With that in mind, if they're going to offer a slot machine that looks and acts like VP, they need to make it crystal clear to anyone playing it, right there on the machine, that it isn't real VP. You say it's been known for years, but I'd bet most people playing their VP still don't know this. I consider myself a fairly savvy gambler, I read T&Cs on all sites before playing, and it would never in a million years have occured to me to check if it was real VP before playing.

[eek]

So all Bryan has to do is stick a disclaimer on his afflink.

The place pays out when you win.
The CS is ok.

This is what players want, this is what they're looking for, isn't it ?
A slot player would have no issues playing there.

Some of us think that the entire ecasino industry is just one big slot machine anyway...
A place that actually admits it is a slot machine gets penalised...go figure.

[tim5ny]

Slotland has by far the worst software and games I have ever played in my life. You have to keep up with the industry and competition, but they seemed quite happy to just keep putting along with the same ol thing.

[eek]

But if you have 2 places you can play at and the one with the gorgeous graphics has bad CS or payout problems, while the one with the crappy graphics has no payout or CS issues....

Where are you going to play if you're a slots player ?

William Hill has a horrendous CS reputation, how many people have avoided the place because of this ?

...nice graphics tho...

[guesswest]

The problem that I see with having Slotland in the accredited list, with or without a disclaimer, is that it gives this site's endorsement of that practice. Slotland were well aware of the thread Chalupa started, wrote on it several times, and though they made some very minor changes, essentially refused to post info about their VP odds in a prominent place on their games. You say it's been known for years, but I just don't think that's true. I'd say it was breaking news when that thread was started, and even after the exposure generated from the original thread, it's still going to be a small minority of Slotland customers are aware of this. I'm sure there are people playing VP on SL as we speak, playing incorrect strategy etc, and losing money, because they're oblivious to this. The only reason SL could have for not wanting to post that info is to dupe players IMO - I'm trying to be fair, but I just can't think of any other reason, can anyone?

Anyways, regardless of anyone's position on this - bearing in mind SL's very generous affiliate program, I think it speaks volumes for the Meister's integrity that he took them off the list based on player complaints.

[eek]

Finding places that:

1 pay out winnings
2 have decent customer service

Is hard enough for most players.

A slot machine is just another gambling device.
Some people like slot machines, its what they play, its ALL they play.
http://www.pluslotto.com

is another place like slotland, and has a good reputation.

If you want to fix the world and all the bad people in it then fine but for a slots joint with an ok reputation to get kicked from a gambling site seems kinda weird to me...