Anything here?

[zman]

Dealer [ 5h Th 7s ] (22)
player [ Ks 2d 8c ] (20)
player bet $2, collected $4, net +$2
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Dealer [ Ks Jh ] (20)
player [ 9h 2c 7d ] (18)
player lost $4
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Dealer [ 3c 7h 9h ] (19)
player [ Th 8h ] (18)
player lost $4
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Dealer [ 2h 3s 5s 7d ] (17)
player [ Th 3d ] (13)
player lost $10
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Dealer [ 9h 3d 2h 5s ] (19)
player [ Ad 6d ] (17)
player lost $14
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Dealer [ Jd Qh ] (20)
player [ 2c Ad 3c 2c ] (18)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 6d 7s 8h ] (21)
player [ 2s 5d 8h Ah 5d ] (21)
player bet $25, collected $25, net +$0
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Dealer [ 5h 7s 4c Jc ] (26)
player [ 7c Js ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 7c 5d Qd ] (22)
player [ 9s 8s ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 4c 8d 9s ] (21)
player [ 2h As Ac Qh 4s ] (18)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ 5h 4d 7s 5c ] (21)
player [ Jc 9h ] (19)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ 7d Td ] (17)
player [ 9h 9c ] (18)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 3c 8d Kc ] (21)
player [ 2d Ks 7h ] (19)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Js Qd ] (20)
player [ 8c 9h ] (17)
player lost $2
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Dealer [ 6c 4s As ] (21)
player [ 6d 6h ] (12)
player lost $48
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Dealer [ Ad 8d ] (19)
player [ 2c Kc 2s 5s ] (19)
player bet $50, collected $50, net +$0
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Dealer [ Ts 2h 2h Kd ] (24)
player [ Kc 5c ] (15)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ 5c 5h 9d ] (19)
player [ Jd Kd ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ 9c 6c 9c ] (24)
player [ Jc Tc ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qh Kd ] (20)
player [ Qs 8s ] (18)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 4h Td ] (14)
player [ Ad 4d Kh Kc ] (25)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3c Jh 4d ] (17)
player [ 9d 4h 7h ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qd 8h ] (18)
player [ 7d 4d 8c ] (19)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Js Ac ] (21)
player [ 7c Kh ] (17)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3d 3s ] (6)
player [ Jc Ah ] (21)
player bet $50, collected $125, net +$75
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Dealer [ 6c 5d Td ] (21)
player [ Kd Jd ] (20)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Qh 8c ] (18)
player [ 5s 3h Ad ] (19)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Qh Qs ] (20)
player [ As 7s ] (18)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s 8c 9h ] (20)
player [ Td 7c ] (17)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Ad 7h ] (18)
player [ Jd Td ] (20)
player bet $75, collected $150, net +$75
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Dealer [ As Th ] (21)
player [ 5s 5d ] (10)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s 3h 8h 7d ] (21)
player [ Kh 3s ] (13)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ Kc 3h 9c ] (22)
player [ 2c 8c 4h ] (14)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ As 2s 4s 8s 9s ] (24)
player [ 4d 7d 5s ] (16)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Tc 8d ] (18)
player [ 3c As 2d As Qh ] (17)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Ad Ah Jh 8c ] (20)
player [ Tc Ts ] (20)
player bet $37.50, collected $25, net -$12.50
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Dealer [ 6h Jc Jd ] (26)
player [ 3d Qh Ah 6h ] (20)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 8c 5c 9h ] (22)
player [ Qc 4h ] (14)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ 5c 4s Qc ] (19)
player [ 3d 4c Qc ] (17)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Ks 6s Qd ] (26)
player [ 3d 2s 5s 7h ] (17)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ Td 2d 8d ] (20)
player [ Jh Qc ] (20)
player bet $25, collected $25, net +$0
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Dealer [ Ad Ad 2s 4h ] (18)
player [ 9c Qs ] (19)
player bet $25, collected $50, net +$25
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Dealer [ Qh Js ] (20)
player [ 6s 3c 5s 4c ] (18)
player lost $25
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Dealer [ Qc Js ] (20)
player [ Td 4d ] (14)
player bet $25, collected $12.50, net -$12.50
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Dealer [ Qh 6h Js ] (26)
player [ 6d Kc ] (16)
player bet $20, collected $40, net +$20
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Dealer [ Th Ac ] (21)
player [ 5c 6h ] (11)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 8d 8h 2s ] (18)
player [ 8h 4s 7s ] (19)
player bet $20, collected $40, net +$20
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Dealer [ 4d 7d 3d 5s ] (19)
player [ 4d 3c Qh ] (17)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 5c 5h Ks ] (20)
player [ 2d Jd ] (12)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 4c 5h Qd ] (19)
player [ Qh 6h ] (16)
player lost $20
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Dealer [ 3h 7s ] (10)
player [ 2s Td Qh ] (22)
player lost $60
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Dealer [ 6h Qh 4h ] (20)
player [ 4d Qs 6h ] (20)
player bet $50, collected $50, net +$0
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Dealer [ Qh 3h Jd ] (23)
player [ Kc 5c ] (15)
player bet $50, collected $100, net +$50
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Dealer [ Td Kd ] (20)
player [ Jh 3s Qd ] (23)
player lost $50
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Dealer [ 3s Kh Qh ] (23)
player [ 5c 6c 9c ] (20)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Ad 8d ] (19)
player [ Th 7h ] (17)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 2s Kh 5d ] (17)
player [ Ks 7c ] (17)
player bet $100, collected $100, net +$0
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Dealer [ 6d Js Jd ] (26)
player [ Ac 7h ] (18)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ Kh Ts ] (20)
player [ 8c Ts ] (18)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ Qh 5d ] (15)
player [ Qd Ad ] (21)
player bet $100, collected $250, net +$150
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Dealer [ Ah 2s 9d 8s ] (20)
player [ 3s 9c 3d ] (15)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ As Jc ] (21)
player [ 8h 7c ] (15)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 3s 2h 8d As 2s 3s ] (19)
player [ Qs 3h ] (13)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 4d As Qd 9h ] (24)
player [ 8s 9s ] (17)
player bet $100, collected $200, net +$100
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Dealer [ 6d Jc ] (16)
player [ 7d 9s ] (16)
player bet $100, collected $50, net -$50
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Dealer [ Th Kd ] (20)
player [ 8h 9c ] (17)
player lost $100
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Dealer [ 4c Jc 7h ] (21)
player [ Qs 8d ] (18)
player lost $100
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[zman]

Might have been bad luck one more, but those 21 scare me

[zman]

13/67 dealer had 21
16/67 dealer had 20

Can anyone work out the % of having 29/67 with dealer having 20 and above.

This was at the BJ section of paradise poker.

[eek]

The odds of 20/21 vary with the dealer upcard.

I make the average to be around 26.8% for 20/21

You got 43%, but it is a very small sample, you really need two or three hundred hands on a single session to do some decent digging with the stats.

[zman]

WTF they sent me a reply.

They said after each deal, the full shoe of 8 decks is reshuffled......

[mgibson99]

I did this very quickly in my head (so the numbers might be a little off), but it looks like you had 30 wins/pushes out of 67 hands. You bet about $3200, and ending up losing about $200. You were placing reasonably large bets (many at $100 per hand).....you won some, you lost some.

On the hands where you bet $50 or more you basically were 50-50 (wins/pushes vs losses). This would seem to alleviate the fear (unfounded in reputable casinos) that we sometimes hear about casinos "flipping the switch" when bets are increased.

A little bad luck? Yes. Suspicious? Not at all from what you've shown us. I've seen (and experienced) much worse at land based and on line casinos.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by zman

13/67 dealer had 21
16/67 dealer had 20

Can anyone work out the % of having 29/67 with dealer having 20 and above.

This was at the BJ section of paradise poker.

The probability of the dealer getting 20 or 21, including BJ, is about 30%.
The exact probability depends on the number of decks and whether the dealer sits soft 17 or not.

[vgyhnji]

If you ever want to see the dealer get hatfuls of 20, 21 and BJ's then just go play at Odds On (English Harbour etc).

One day when I have money and time to waste I shall put together some serious stats for that software - I am sure it will not make good reading!