Betting On 16

[lanidar]

I have a question for you guys.
While playing BJ you get a 10/J/Q/ or K and a 6.
Do you bet?
Now, what if you have multiple cards that total 16?
Do you bet?

[cipher]

I have a question for you guys.
While playing BJ you get a 10/J/Q/ or K and a 6.
Do you bet?
Now, what if you have multiple cards that total 16?
Do you bet?

If you're question is do I hit? (Rather than "Do you bet") Yes I do John. Otherwise I don't understand the question "Do you bet?" Say Hi to the wife and boys. Have a good one.

[Macgyver]

Actually, that's a pretty good question that I also interpreted to ask whether one should bet when you have 16 and the dealer's showing a face card.

Cipher, though I have limited knowledge of how you play (from what I read here), would "seeding" or "dumping" have any effect on that decision?

Unless I've misunderstood the basic concept of those two words ...

[lanidar]

If you're question is do I hit? (Rather than "Do you bet") Yes I do John. Otherwise I don't understand the question "Do you bet?" Say Hi to the wife and boys. Have a good one.

Actuallly...that's exactly what I meant by "bet".
In either case, you're sayin that I should make the hit?
It seems that when ever I hit, in either case I lose.

Anyone know the odds on either play?

The boys dumped BJ and are now playing Texas Hold 'Em.
Matthew, as you may recall, is the bigger gambler of the two boys. Plus he's been playing a few months longer than Justin. Mid November to end of December Matthew net 22K+. That's not including the rake. Justin started to really get involved in December and he made $2500.00 plus the rake.

I just started to play with their help a week ago.

Hopefully, I'll be half as successful as my boys.
Thanks for asking.

[gfkostas]

Do I hit when I have 3+ card 16 against 7,8,9,10???

[cipher]

Actually, that's a pretty good question that I also interpreted to ask whether one should bet when you have 16 and the dealer's showing a face card.

Cipher, though I have limited knowledge of how you play (from what I read here), would "seeding" or "dumping" have any effect on that decision?

Unless I've misunderstood the basic concept of those two words ...

It could, but just remember Mac that seeding and dumping is normally spawned by the lesser valued cards (A,2,3,4,5) so anything in the lower range is more than likely going to make (in this case) the dealers 6.

Have a good one.

[Clayman]

Do I hit when I have 3+ card 16 against 7,8,9,10???

John - always hit a 2-card 16 vs 10 regardless of the number of decks or other rules. You'll be ahead in the long run if you do. Naturally, surrender the hand if you can. You can see the EV difference between hitting or standing for different decks and rules at http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/bjapx9.html

There are lots of 3-or-more-card 16's that one should stand on rather than hit against 7,8,9 or 10 depending on the number of the decks and whether the dealer stands on soft 17 or not. Even multi-card 15's vs 10, especially in single-deck (555, 654, 663 - easy to remember because 3 cards you could use are gone). You can go to http://www.gamblingtools.net/bj/ and plug in the decks and rules there to see the right play if you want and develop your own tables. Also Appendix 3 by the Wiz has a list for multi-card single and double-deck exceptions to Basic Strategy.

For 8 decks some of the more common 3-card 16's vs 10 you should stand on are 952, 943, 87A, 853, 844, 772, 754, 655 & 105A. Yes, I get yelled at when I do this.

All of this of course is off the top of a freshly shuffled deck(s).

It's not like you'll get rich or anything making these plays

[lanidar]

Thanks Clayman for all your help.
It's appreciated

[Clayman]

Thanks for all your help. It's appreciated

Anytime - when you learn how to play poker as good as your boys, you can return the favor by teaching me!

[paul1]

For 8 decks some of the more common 3-card 16's vs 10 you should stand on are 952, 943, 87A, 853, 844, 772, 754, 655 & 105A. Yes, I get yelled at when I do this.

All of this of course is off the top of a freshly shuffled deck(s).

I can't see how it would ever be correct to stand on 16 v T off the top of a freshly shuffled 8-decker. Of course, I understand the strategy variations of single deck. Either way, a close play. But please point me to somewhere that says you should "stand on T5A off the top of an 8-decker." I'd like to see the support for your statement above, please.