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Cash Back Loyalty Programs Vs. Bonuses

I think cash back player points are undervalued as a promotional tool as various casinoes compete for loyalty with one shot bonuses.

Are there any good cash back loyalty programs out there. Most of the MicroGaming ones I have looked at are pretty unimpressive.

What are the best loyalty programs?

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I think cash back player points are undervalued as a promotional tool as various casinoes compete for loyalty with one shot bonuses.

Are there any good cash back loyalty programs out there. Most of the MicroGaming ones I have looked at are pretty unimpressive.

What are the best loyalty programs?

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I think Playtech's cashback is pretty accomodative because you don't have to make any special account or special name to receive cashback like some Micro casinos or don't need to wait until the winning is clear like some RTG casinos. You play, you earn, endlessly and whenever they are convertible. Also if you become a more upward player, then you can have better ratio. Playtech's is nice.
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Playtech's is nice.
Do you know what the cashback percentage is? I think with micro usually $10 earns one point. And 100 points is $1. So it is $1 per $1000 or .1%. Not very inviting.

I saw one well know MG that excludes roulette and craps from *any* cashback. A BM casino would never do that.

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I've seen ads for Pinnacle offering .3% cash back. I'm not sure how their casino is, but their sportsbook is rock solid.

.1% seems to be the norm at RTG and Microgaming.

Excluding craps and roulette wagering from the comp system is ludicrous.
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Do you know what the cashback percentage is? I think with micro usually $10 earns one point. And 100 points is $1. So it is $1 per $1000 or .1%. Not very inviting.
I think, not totally sure, that BJ at some MG like the FLG, are down to $1 for every $2500 wagered.

I think 0.1% is pretty nice, all things considered, since it comes right off the house edge. It alone turns some games into positive EV.
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CasinoUS (MG) and CasinoUK (MG) offer 0.5% on slot play which is the best out there. And i agree - definately undervalued
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I think, not totally sure, that BJ at some MG like the FLG, are down to $1 for every $2500 wagered.

I think 0.1% is pretty nice, all things considered, since it comes right off the house edge. It alone turns some games into positive EV.
But I was toying with the idea of replacing the bonus system with a cashback system. Or a hybred with a lot more emphasis on cash back.

And I was curious if anyone was employing a really agressive cashback system. Simmo, isn't .05% less than normal?

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Most land based casinos are .20% to .35% for slots and VP.
Most have 2X or 3X cashback days sometime during the month.

The best in the Midwest USA is 1% - at two different casinos.

The nearest boat is .2% VP and .4% for slots.
Best VP game is 99.2 % double bonus.
8 days in December were 2x casback.
2 days last month were 4x cashback.
Received $55 in meal coupons for December.
Also they have a separate "comp" account - this is about .5% of wagers.
You can buy items in the gift shop or any food outlet.
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The biggest comps AFAIK are given by Big Dollar and South Beach (Micro) - 0,5% for all games (which theoretically can give players an edge in some BJ games). Crypto and Bossmedia have comps from 0,1% to 0,3% depending on game, probably the best offer is at Peak Group (Omni, Sands, etc.) - more you play more comps for the same game you get, maximum level is from 0,12% BJ (base level is 0,08%) to 0,8% keno.
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