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Old 30th November 2004, 06:20 AM
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Hi, Cipher,

I really find your method/strategy very interesting, amazing. I truly believe some people can win consistently over the the long run and you are one of them definitely!

One question (which you may have answered): Does your method work on Land-based casinos?

Thank you.
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Old 30th November 2004, 08:38 AM
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Hi, Cipher,

I really find your method/strategy very interesting, amazing. I truly believe some people can win consistently over the the long run and you are one of them definitely!

One question (which you may have answered): Does your method work on Land-based casinos?

Thank you.
Hi FTG:

Yes FTG, Cipher seems to be working very well with a group of people that are currently using it in Vegas but only after incorporating a couple things that I learned from the aforementioned Jerry Patterson. Have a good one.
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Old 30th November 2004, 08:45 AM
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Hi FTG:

Yes FTG, Cipher seems to be working very well with a group of people that are currently using it in Vegas but only after incorporating a couple things that I learned from the aforementioned Jerry Patterson. Have a good one.

You can bring a computer into Vegas casinos? No .....! If not then those people must be working in pairs. One sits in a hotel running the program and the other plays BJ while talking to the first guy on the phone!

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Old 30th November 2004, 09:39 AM
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Just some observations and asides...

Computers are small enough to be carried into casinos... your phone is one example. However, you can't use the phone at the table. There is, and always will be, some sort of computer being used by someone hoping to gain an edge at blackjack.

Kenny Uston was not just a counter. He was one of the most brilliant minds alive. Strangely enough, he was also the one who devised the system to beat Pacman

Caruso - stop working from foreign computers... LOL... you must be in France or something. That is one of my pet peeves...
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Old 30th November 2004, 05:08 PM
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You can bring a computer into Vegas casinos? No .....! If not then those people must be working in pairs. One sits in a hotel running the program and the other plays BJ while talking to the first guy on the phone!

There's no need to be that surreptitious or clandestine and there's really no need for a computer in that application either. Have a good one.
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Just some observations and asides...

Computers are small enough to be carried into casinos... your phone is one example. However, you can't use the phone at the table. There is, and always will be, some sort of computer being used by someone hoping to gain an edge at blackjack.

Kenny Uston was not just a counter. He was one of the most brilliant minds alive. Strangely enough, he was also the one who devised the system to beat Pacman

Caruso - stop working from foreign computers... LOL... you must be in France or something. That is one of my pet peeves...
Yes you're right Spear, Kenny Uston was what we would refer to today as a real piece of work. I'll never forget the time when Kenny was found to have a miniature computer in the heal of his shoe. The pit bosses gaffled him up and confiscated the computer turning the computer over to the Gaming Control Board. But all that came to nothing after the Gaming Control Board came back with their report saying the computers only held commonly known information and nothing of a nefarious nature.

Now if ever someone wanted to make a movie about a guy in Vegas Kenny Uston would be the one to go for, there are still enough of the original CHARACTERS around to make a pretty accurate movie. Have a good one.
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Yes you're right Spear, Kenny Uston was what we would refer to today as a real piece of work. I'll never forget the time when Kenny was found to have a miniature computer in the heal of his shoe. The pit bosses gaffled him up and confiscated the computer turning the computer over to the Gaming Control Board. But all that came to nothing after the Gaming Control Board came back with their report saying the computers only held commonly known information and nothing of a nefarious nature.

Now if ever someone wanted to make a movie about a guy in Vegas Kenny Uston would be the one to go for, there are still enough of the original CHARACTERS around to make a pretty accurate movie. Have a good one.

They don't have computer that small in those days! So what are you guys talking about?
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Old 1st December 2004, 06:17 AM
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They don't have computer that small in those days! So what are you guys talking about?
Oh they certainly did. That's just the kind of innovative sort Kenny Uston was. Have a good one.
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Not all computers need to be big. Your calculator was a computer of sorts - so too was your watch.

The only difference between now and then is that Kenny would have hidden away about a billion times more information in the same amount of space Probably would have kept Pacman there as well to hook up to the TV in his hotel room!

I would love to see a movie on Kenny Uston.
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