Neteller Security ID

[padanian]

I just wanted to ask for your advice.
I just made a second deposit in a casino that I will not specify.
I selected Neteller: usually it’s quite common that you find your account number saved, and that’s fine.
In this case I also found my security id number and this is definitely bizarre since it’s something that should prevent a possible abusive use of the account.
Did something like this happen to anyone?
Do you think I should get in touch with the casino concerning this issue?

[cipher]

I just wanted to ask for your advice.
I just made a second deposit in a casino that I will not specify.
I selected Neteller: usually it’s quite common that you find your account number saved, and that’s fine.
In this case I also found my security id number and this is definitely bizarre since it’s something that should prevent a possible abusive use of the account.
Did something like this happen to anyone?
Do you think I should get in touch with the casino concerning this issue?

Hi Padanian:

I'd definitely get in touch with that casino and if the matter is not resolved to your satisfaction it wouldn't be a bad idea to take a screen shot and then get in touch with Neteller.

Chances are if this is happening to you it's happening to anyone else who uses Neteller at that casino and that's a scary proposition. Have a good one.

[padanian]

Hi Padanian:

I'd definitely get in touch with that casino and if the matter is not resolved to your satisfaction it wouldn't be a bad idea to take a screen shot and then get in touch with Neteller.

Chances are if this is happening to you it's happening to anyone else who uses Neteller at that casino and that's a scarry proposition. Have a good one.

Thanks Cipher. As usual, a great feedback!
Will do it, and keep the forum informed.

[Lukas85]

is it a NetEnterntainment casino?

[sw2003]

Casinos' security is primarily for their own safety! See how they check and double check the payout?

Do they care about our security? Not really! I have seen casinos that put up sign-up page that asked you to give a login id, password and then the whole webpage isn't even encrypted. So basically your id and password are opened to anyone that wants to look.

When you talk to their stupid CS, they first insist everything is encrypted and when you point out that your browser shows that there is no encryption, .... they still insist there is encryption .... for a while ...... and then switch to nobody yet has any problem ....... ... and then every casino does the same thing ..... it is common at all the casinos .... blah blah ..........! So you see, the casinos don't care about our security, only their own!

[padanian]

Hello there!
I opened an account with xx some weeks ago.
I noticed that when I deposit using Neteller, also the space for the ID Security Code is already filled (and not just the neteller account number as it usually happens).
I think this represents a danger for players since the identification code should be intended as a security pin in order to prevent possible abuses.
I would be glad to have a feedback from you concerning this issue.
In the meantime I take this chance to send my
Kind Regards
Aldo xxxxx

PS: The first thing I do when using a computer is disabling any auto-fill option, especially when my wife has acces to it.... So that wouldn't be an explanation

[zaphod42]

I find it rather disconcerting that NETeller's web site allows the browser
to remember the secure ID. This should be considered a secure field that the browser does not automatically remember from previoius sessions.

Yet in any browser I've ever used, the NETeller website login screen already knows both my account number AND my secure ID. Not very comforting.
And no, this is not some setting on my browser I've screwed up. I'm well versed with the browsers I use, and this is the ONLY "secure" site that does this to me.

Sure the password field is still secure (ie; doesn't allow auto-fill from the browsers history), but shouldn't the secure ID be treated the same way?

[caruso]

I find it rather disconcerting that NETeller's web site allows the browser to remember the secure ID...Yet in any browser I've ever used, the NETeller website login screen already knows both my account number AND my secure ID.

Mine doesn't. I would rather it did - in the old (FAR superior) format, it did. I find the login page very irksome; the cursor somehow vanishes from the secure ID field as I'm typing the wretched thing, every time. The password field usually behaves exactly the same.

I wish they'd left their website alone. There was no need of these constant updates, and NONE are for the better. The old format was excellent. Change for change's sake is pointless.

[sw2003]

I find it rather disconcerting that NETeller's web site allows the browser
to remember the secure ID. This should be considered a secure field that the browser does not automatically remember from previoius sessions.

Yet in any browser I've ever used, the NETeller website login screen already knows both my account number AND my secure ID. Not very comforting.
And no, this is not some setting on my browser I've screwed up. I'm well versed with the browsers I use, and this is the ONLY "secure" site that does this to me.

Sure the password field is still secure (ie; doesn't allow auto-fill from the browsers history), but shouldn't the secure ID be treated the same way?

What browser are you using?

[zaphod42]

I use both IE v6 and Mozilla FireFox...

I DO have the "auto-fill" option turned on, but it shouldn't be remembering secure / password fields unless I specifically tell it to (and naturally I would never tell it to do so on sensitive sites like NETeller or other financial and/or private stuff.) Furthermore, no other sites do this to me (paypal, or any of my bank accounts, investment accounts, etc...)

This tells me that the code behind the NETeller login page doesn't have the Secure ID field set as a "password" type field, ie; one which won't be remembered unless explicitly requested by the user.