Nostalgia Cipher Strand

[sw2003]

Truegambler's Online Casino Analyzer is trying to do something like this. The problem with Cipher strands is that you have to enter the data by hand, so people could enter fake data or submit genuine data selectively.

Data contamination is always a big problem unless you have a video camera recording clearly the sessions as well!

[sw2003]

I hope that FairDice or TrueGambler can prove or insure a fair game for all.

Amen to that too! I hope FairDice will come sooner rather than later!

I wonder can you Masters (Spear, Casino, Grand, Sword, Small, Large .... etc), jetset, blackjet, bluejet .... etc talk to the casino people to see if this can be pushed? A lot of players would be a lot happier if they can be assured that the dice throw is fair or the random numbers can be guaranteed to be fair through initiatives such as FairDice?

[Casinomeister]

Well, I woke up this morning hoping that Cipher would have taken the time to explain some of the comments directed at me. Unfortunately, he has let this slide.

It was all about the green then and it's all about the green now.

Most of the people who are personally acquainted with me know the kind of money I've turned down from unscrupulous operators. And after last July's Playtech fiasco, I turned down three separate Playtech campaigns that were pending. So this thoughtless comment is what is prompting me to remove you from the forum for the next two weeks.

Your removal has nothing to do with the “Cipher” logs, etc., your removal is because of your attitude. This is my forum, and as your host I will have your respect. Simple as that. If you disagree with this, then take your business elsewhere.

Everyone here should understand that I do not take this lightly, verbally attacking other members will not be tolerated. And if you feel that making unsubstantiated belligerent comments towards me is necessary, then you will find yourself out on sidewalk looking up at the stars.

[largeeyes]

Thank the lord.....no more cipher strings.......

[caruso]

Speaking as a long time player, equally fervent player advocate and one not unused to the form master stun gun himself: that's a great shame for players in general. On the matter of the above disparaging comment about Cipher's strand posts: let me repeat that ALL published data is valuable, whatever the reason, since 1) it can serendipitously reveal anomolies and 2) it makes a gesture towards saying "we're watching you" to the Bad Boys. These posts should be ENCOURAGED. Any players making smart alec disparaging comments need to look at where their priorities lie - the posts are made with your interests in mind. On the matter of the corruption charge which led to this: I hope Bryan can understand how tempers can get heated in these situations, when people question the obviously diligent work someone is putting in; that Cipher can appreciate how remarks such as those will inevitably and not unreasonably have this consequence; and that both of them can sort this little contretemp out with calmer heads.

[DeMango]

I trust you all will shortly meet in Vegas and come to peaceable terms. In the absense of something like FairDice, all we have are people who gather statistics. We expect a fair and even game - no six aces in a hand, no five dealer BJ's in a row, no losing 180 hands out of 210 as has recently been alleged. Any and all posters who gather and post relevant information is welcome by me and I really expect all should feel that way. I do wish the Cipher strands were put together as a running total, but I believe his point was that trends were indentifiable and exploitable. That may be voodoo but if the RNG produce these trends then it would be gospel! Who knows except the search continues and truth must be unearthed!
Cheers! (and PEACE!)

[jerseyguy11]

Speaking as a long time player, equally fervent player advocate and one not unused to the form master stun gun himself: that's a great shame for players in general. On the matter of the above disparaging comment about Cipher's strand posts: let me repeat that ALL published data is valuable, whatever the reason, since 1) it can serendipitously reveal anomolies and 2) it makes a gesture towards saying "we're watching you" to the Bad Boys. These posts should be ENCOURAGED. Any players making smart alec disparaging comments need to look at where their priorities lie - the posts are made with your interests in mind. On the matter of the corruption charge which led to this: I hope Bryan can understand how tempers can get heated in these situations, when people question the obviously diligent work someone is putting in; that Cipher can appreciate how remarks such as those will inevitably and not unreasonably have this consequence; and that both of them can sort this little contretemp out with calmer heads.

nicely stated

[bethug]

largeeyes , you didnt have to look at them
As a player , i think cipher is the best assest this forum has and it sad he got ban

[Black21Jack]

Thank the lord.....no more cipher strings.......

You make it seem like they are affecting you in a negative way or something. Don't read the friggin the threads then. Holy cow!

[Casinomeister]

Please don't get me wrong, read carefully what I have said -- I have nothing against the "strands", it was Cipher's attitude towards the forum members, me, and my forum that I had a problem with. He's welcome to participate in a rational non-belligerent manner.

I told him I'm ready to talk when he mellows out.