Nostalgia Cipher Strand

[cipher]

Originally Posted by spearmaster

What bethug said.

The strand shows a win - so is Cipher just posting normal results or are we supposed to see something in there that indicates that some abnormality is present? Or are we supposed to be starting some sort of conspiracy LOL...

Hi Spear; The fact is simply this, using Cipher I track a session of Blackjack from a non-RTG casino and then from an RTG casino. It's up to the individual to read whatever they want in or out of the Cipher strands. If the individual sees something that's fine and if they don't that's fine too. End of story. Have a good one.

[jerseyguy11]

its pointless to keep discussing the "is this casino fair, is RTG fair" issues again and again. I have to admit that I wouldnt have listened to any of it 3 years ago. People just need to learn for themselves I suppose.

[cipher]

Originally Posted by casinomeister

Cipher, this is my god damn forum, and when I question what your posts are all about, I do not expect this as part of your reply. "It was all about the green then and it's all about the green now." "Posting the Bail"?? "but everytime you've chosen to get involved with anything RTG you've gotten burned badly"

Where in the f*** have I been burned?! What the hell is going on in your head when you reply like this?

Imagine me really pissed off, because that is what I am at the moment. You don't make statements like this and don't think I will not take them seriously. I can take criticism, but to imply that I'm on the take or making bumbling decisions was way out of line.

If you wanted an open dialogue between the operators and software provider and your data - then you should have approached me and arranged this. I could have set up a specific section have all of this reviewed in public, or private, or whatever. But to trash me when I question what is going on in my forum in unacceptable.

Bryan;

Don't you ever labor under the dillusion Bryan that can talk down to me. I won't take it from you or anyone else for that matter. You try that kind of "BS" with me and you can expect both barrels back from me my friend.

The fact of the matter is this. For months now the Cipher strands have been viewed by one hell of a lot of people on this forum and with the exception of less than a handfull (INCLUDING YOURSELF) everyone seems to have gotten something out of them. If you havn't, I'm sorry, it's not my job to be all things to all people all of the time.

[bpb]

Originally Posted by cipher

Bryan;

Don't you ever labor under the dillusion Bryan that can talk down to me. I won't take it from you or anyone else for that matter. You try that kind of "BS" with me and you can expect both barrels back from me my friend.

I'm pretty sure you're the one who talked down to him.

For that matter, do you actually read any of the comments posted, or do you just fly off the handle as soon as you see anything that isn't in 100% agreement with you. Rational responses to arguments typically work better than violent accusations.

[cipher]

Originally Posted by bpb

I'm pretty sure you're the one who talked down to him.

For that matter, do you actually read any of the comments posted, or do you just fly off the handle as soon as you see anything that isn't in 100% agreement with you. Rational responses to arguments typically work better than violent accusations.

Try this bpb, that matter is between Bryan and I. Had it anything to do with you it would have been addressed to you. Understand?

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by cipher

Bryan;

Don't you ever labor under the dillusion Bryan that can talk down to me. I won't take it from you or anyone else for that matter. You try that kind of "BS" with me and you can expect both barrels back from me my friend.
...

What is BS is your attitude. I made the comment that I didn't understand where you were going with all of these Cipher strands. You have implied that RTG operators have been rigging the games. And by the way, I could not give a flying rat's ass if they are Casinomeister casinos or not - but if you are going to be using my forum to rag on a software provider, or operators for that matter, let's make this clear cut and understandable.

Originally Posted by Casinomeister

You've lost me as well. I have no idea what these posts are all about.

My comment caused you to fire off some bullshit that I am on the take. And then you have the audacity to continue this nonsense.

Originally Posted by cipher

The fact of the matter is this. For months now the Cipher strands have been viewed by one hell of a lot of people on this forum and with the exception of less than a handfull (INCLUDING YOURSELF) everyone seems to have gotten something out of them. If you havn't, I'm sorry, it's not my job to be all things to all people all of the time.

I've been looking them over like everyone else. And???

I suggest you pack your attitude and keep your comments to yourself, or just take a break from the forum.

[cynowoo]

everyone would stick to his own opinion.

but from the experience of over 50K hands at Phoenican and Nostalgia ,

at least I would support the point that the winning probability depends on the BET size

Once you bet big enough , $200, $500 sth , the nightmare is starting...

[cipher]

Originally Posted by cynowoo

everyone would stick to his own opinion.

but from the experience of over 50K hands at Phoenican and Nostalgia ,

at least I would support the point that the winning probability depends on the BET size

Once you bet big enough , $200, $500 sth , the nightmare is starting...

Hi Cynowoo; I've PM'd you with an email address that you can send your log data files to if you care to request your log data files from the Phoenician or Nostalgia. I'd be happy to merge those files into a rather substantial data base that I started putting together some 4 months ago. Have a good one.

[jerseyguy11]

yo cipher, can you PM me your email address again. I dug up a few months worth of logs from grandbanks/onluck/blackwidow when they were RTG. Still trying to get the rest.

PM me your email and ill send em.

[cipher]

Originally Posted by jerseyguy11

yo cipher, can you PM me your email address again. I dug up a few months worth of logs from grandbanks/onluck/blackwidow when they were RTG. Still trying to get the rest.

PM me your email and ill send em.

DONE