Nostalgia Cipher Strand

[cipher]

Originally Posted by bpb

I'd love to know what FACTS you have to offer in support of the view that no online casino deals a fair table game.

All I see are is the continual posting of statistically insignificant samples of hands.

I have not once seen anyone post a set of logs that suggest that RTG or Microgaming is not giving a fair deal.

I couldn't care less about what you've seen or what you havn't seen.

[bethug]

bpb, why should cipher post in detail what he has, people not going to believe it anyway. For some reason people think the casinos or the software compaines deal a fair game, i have played way to many hours on land and online to be fooled. Each software and sometimes casino i have to play a different way.

[Black21Jack]

You can't win here. No matter what you say people will say the opposite, just like I posted a while back in a few threads. If cipher posted his strands in support of a particular casino software people would jump down his throat for that too. I find his posts useful and interesting, and if I didn't I would not read the thread.

[bewitch]

LOL~ Pretty truth...

Ciper, when will you arrive Vegas?

[Casinomeister]

Originally Posted by cipher

You can choose to believe whatever you want to believe. Whatever that might be, is based only on what someone else has told you. I'd like to know what FACTS you might have to offer in support of a comment such as "They are merely managing the casinos."

What's happening between you and Realtime Gaming now Bryan is nothing different than what you where trying to set up last year by "posting the bail" for the clowns at Hampton and Delano casinos and totally trashing the pirate. It was all about the green then and it's all about the green now.

Now we have the same possibilities of the Crystal Palace coming back into play again. Fortunately a stake has finally be driven through the heart of the heart of Delano Casino or I guess you'd be trying to ressurect them as well.

Lastly Bryan, you havn't got a clue as to who you're dealing with as far as this Phoenician and Nostalgia number is concerned, but everytime you've chosen to get involved with anything RTG you've gotten burned badly.

Cipher, this is my god damn forum, and when I question what your posts are all about, I do not expect this as part of your reply. "It was all about the green then and it's all about the green now." "Posting the Bail"?? "but everytime you've chosen to get involved with anything RTG you've gotten burned badly"

Where in the f*** have I been burned?! What the hell is going on in your head when you reply like this?

Imagine me really pissed off, because that is what I am at the moment. You don't make statements like this and don't think I will not take them seriously. I can take criticism, but to imply that I'm on the take or making bumbling decisions was way out of line.

If you wanted an open dialogue between the operators and software provider and your data - then you should have approached me and arranged this. I could have set up a specific section have all of this reviewed in public, or private, or whatever. But to trash me when I question what is going on in my forum in unacceptable.

[DeMango]

Truth is a rare commodity in this industry but we must for the sake of others and our wallets find it. We have all seen some zany runs playing table games on these casinos. I hope that FairDice or TrueGambler can prove or insure a fair game for all. I know my results have been .5 to 1.5 less than expected value for BJ at some of the leading software providors. I await software (via mail) from Stanley - its my last attempt at a fair game!

[bethug]

bryan, the only thiing that will work is random testing , when you tell a casino or software compnay someone going to test it, i am for sure they will deal a fair game. When they audit my books, i dont know when they coming.

also cipher software everytime i see shows a win, he must know something we dont

[caruso]

Originally Posted by DeMango

I hope that FairDice or TrueGambler can prove or insure a fair game for all.

Amen, brother. I can't think of a statement I could agree more whole-heartedly with.

Honest, independent, verifiable regulation.

Excuse me while I dream a bit.

[spearmaster]

What bethug said.

The strand shows a win - so is Cipher just posting normal results or are we supposed to see something in there that indicates that some abnormality is present? Or are we supposed to be starting some sort of conspiracy LOL...

I think everyone can take this discussion down about five notches - personally I do not see anything wrong on either side, except a couple of you letting emotions get the better of you (not that it doesn't happen to me either LOL).

[cipher]

Originally Posted by bewitch

LOL~ Pretty truth...

Ciper, when will you arrive Vegas?

Hi Bewitch;

I live in the central San Joaquin Valley in California and from the time "wheels are up" it takes me about 25 minutes to get to Vegas. So I'm not locked into any particular time of arrival or fortunately departure. But if you're going to be there I won't miss the opportunity to get together. Have a good one.