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    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyguy11
    If you look at ciphers records, the red outnumbers the green by a TON. 49% odds in your favor does not produce such losses.

    Sure, MG, RTG or playtech makes the software. These casinos have millions upon millions of dollars. Dont you think it would be easy for them to hire a few smart programmers to design a "switch" or profit "limit" if the casino wants one? Could it be possible that MG, RTG or other software companys are just unaware any tampering that a casino could do?
    Cipher records showed a very limited number of hands, yes I agree that they showed more red than green but there aren't that many hands on the screenshots for one to draw any conclusion.

    If the words got out that MG or RTG or PlayTech software had a switch in their BJ games, imagine how many customers they are going to lose. Let's assume that the software does have a switch for argument sake, how are they going to prevent that secret from leaking out with so many casino people out there? Only owners are ever going to see the software control page or the software can only be controled at the softwares' headquarter and not at the casinos? How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sw2003
    Cipher records showed a very limited number of hands, yes I agree that they showed more red than green but there aren't that many hands on the screenshots for one to draw any conclusion.

    If the words got out that MG or RTG or PlayTech software had a switch in their BJ games, imagine how many customers they are going to lose. Let's assume that the software does have a switch for argument sake, how are they going to prevent that secret from leaking out with so many casino people out there? Only owners are ever going to see the software control page or the software can only be controled at the softwares' headquarter and not at the casinos? How?

    well, yes i know ciphers showed limited play, however I played at bo dog 3 times now and each time my results have been about 30% win and 70% loss if i remember right. Im too record screenshots, but I'm going to start doing so soon. To give bodog credit, I did win $1500 one night, primarily due to 3 $400 bets, so you can win. But i just get a bad feeling playing there (btw i play their no download). Ciphers records show 35 losses and 22 wins. That is pretty consistent with my play. I usually lose 70% and win 30% of my hands. Dealer just has too many blackjacks and doesnt seem to bust as much as it should (like in MG games).

    as far as your comment on the "switch"... I was just speculating that a casino owner could hire a few programmers to "install" or manipulate the software to a certain degree, after the software was liscensed to the casino. As far as the leaking argument, i guess it would depend on the amount of internal control a casino has. Maybe only a certain department or certain level has access to the "switch". For example, 10 minutes after I deposited $1000 in one of my casinos, I was contacted immediately to confirm these deposits (for fear of fraud on the casinos end obviously). So your account is always being monitered. Maybe some casinos monitor your play and if you seem like your winning too much, they flip the "switch".

    once again, all this is speculation and nobody really knows except the owners.
    sooner or later we will be playing blackjack from ceasars las vegas (via web) when our politicians wake up. In the meantime, play at well known groups as I keep saying. Its your best shot for a fair game, thats my advice.

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    that should read... Im too lazy to record screenshots* haha. its late im tired

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    HI,cipher:

    you can request the IBETNET to adjust the minimum table limit to $1

    they likely do it for you

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    Hi Cynowoo;

    It's been awhile since I played at I-Net-Bet but only because of their $5.00 to $200.00 wager window. Its' archaic and I cannot understand why anyone would knowingly limit themselves to a wager window of $5-$200 when there are so many casinos that offer wager windows of $1-$500. It just does not make any sense to me at all. Have a good one.

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    you win 3 hand of $400 ,that's pretty good

    What I am afrad of a casino is that constantly eat "big" pass "small"

    Under that casino , it's nightmare.


    Quote Originally Posted by jerseyguy11
    well, yes i know ciphers showed limited play, however I played at bo dog 3 times now and each time my results have been about 30% win and 70% loss if i remember right. Im too record screenshots, but I'm going to start doing so soon. To give bodog credit, I did win $1500 one night, primarily due to 3 $400 bets, so you can win. But i just get a bad feeling playing there (btw i play their no download). Ciphers records show 35 losses and 22 wins. That is pretty consistent with my play. I usually lose 70% and win 30% of my hands. Dealer just has too many blackjacks and doesnt seem to bust as much as it should (like in MG games).

    as far as your comment on the "switch"... I was just speculating that a casino owner could hire a few programmers to "install" or manipulate the software to a certain degree, after the software was liscensed to the casino. As far as the leaking argument, i guess it would depend on the amount of internal control a casino has. Maybe only a certain department or certain level has access to the "switch". For example, 10 minutes after I deposited $1000 in one of my casinos, I was contacted immediately to confirm these deposits (for fear of fraud on the casinos end obviously). So your account is always being monitered. Maybe some casinos monitor your play and if you seem like your winning too much, they flip the "switch".

    once again, all this is speculation and nobody really knows except the owners.
    sooner or later we will be playing blackjack from ceasars las vegas (via web) when our politicians wake up. In the meantime, play at well known groups as I keep saying. Its your best shot for a fair game, thats my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cynowoo
    HI,cipher:

    you can request the IBETNET to adjust the minimum table limit to $1

    they likely do it for you
    I have requested this at iNet and they will not do it. I think they might if you are a high roller and giving them a large amount of money every month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black21Jack
    I have requested this at iNet and they will not do it. I think they might if you are a high roller and giving them a large amount of money every month.
    You are right Black21Jack, I think it was Emily Hanson who mentioned that I-Net-Bet does not alter their wager window no matter how much money a person runs through there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher
    You are right Black21Jack, I think it was Emily Hanson who mentioned that I-Net-Bet does not alter their wager window no matter how much money a person runs through there.
    There are other casinos to play if INetBet does not give a damn about their customers' wishes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sw2003
    There are other casinos to play if INetBet does not give a damn about their customers' wishes!
    sw2003

    Firstly let me assure you and all the readers at Casinomeister that at iNetBet we value our customers wishes above all else, hence the reputation we have enjoyed.

    We, wherever possible, continually make allowances and exceptions to accommodate our players.

    Black21Jack

    I am sorry but if we have refused to reduce your minimum to $1 it must have been a misunderstanding, as that option is and always has been available to all our players, please send me a mail at your convenience to manager@inetbet.com and I will attend to it personally for you.

    Best regards to all.

    Emily Hanson
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    Quote Originally Posted by emily_hanson
    sw2003

    Firstly let me assure you and all the readers at Casinomeister that at iNetBet we value our customers wishes above all else, hence the reputation we have enjoyed.

    We, wherever possible, continually make allowances and exceptions to accommodate our players.

    Black21Jack

    I am sorry but if we have refused to reduce your minimum to $1 it must have been a misunderstanding, as that option is and always has been available to all our players, please send me a mail at your convenience to manager@inetbet.com and I will attend to it personally for you.

    Best regards to all.

    Emily Hanson
    Then I assume Emily, that you're willing to increase the wager window as well. In other words can a player choose a wager window of say $1.00 to $1,000.00? Have a good one.

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