BoDog Cipher strand, Constants vs Yield

[jerseyguy11]

i played $400 today with bodog. I really dont see how you can win with them. 3/4 hands i lose consistently if not more.

[cipher]

Cipher:

Do you have any analysis of Ibetnet , I found it's the harest among those reputable RTGs(phoenician , Nostalgian, Bodog, Shark etc)

Hi Cynowoo;

It's been awhile since I played at I-Net-Bet but only because of their $5.00 to $200.00 wager window. Its' archaic and I cannot understand why anyone would knowingly limit themselves to a wager window of $5-$200 when there are so many casinos that offer wager windows of $1-$500. It just does not make any sense to me at all. Have a good one.

[Black21Jack]

Hi Bethug, thanks for your interest.

About the only time that I've noticed a significant difference between the real and free modes is when the cards are not being dealt at the normally fast pace as they usually are dealt. I generally try to keep away from the slow dealt sessions whether it's real or free play.

Cipher, do you have any guess as to why this may be? I have noticed that as well. Sometimes RTG is very slow and the winning hands are slim to none.

I have also noticed that the RTG software has tightened up again just as I posted a couple months ago. I played and the dealer got an unbelievable amount of 21's against my 20's, 20's againts my 19's etc. There was also a lot of dealer Blackjacks and pushes on BJ. Again I must state this is not scientific and just based on my gameplay. I also had a friend deposit in this casino and the exact same thing happened with him, he lost every hand right down to zero out.

[cipher]

Cipher
Exactly how do you know when to raise your bets from $1 to $180 and you are sure you will win that hand?

I am curious. An advantage player like you still not banned by casinos?
With all due respect, why aren't you playing 24/7 and make $$$ but instead you take the bother and 'share' your system here?

Hi Snuf419;

First off, I'm assuming that you're referring to the Bo Dog Cipher strand that I initiated at the start of this thread and specifically at line #25 where a $180 dollar wager was made. Note at line #24 a green block was recorded after a fairly substantial run of red blocks. The accumulated losses carried forward from Line #12 equals $58.00 and rounding off that number we'd have a figure of $60.00.

Anytime that I see something in a Cipher strand that warrants a wager other than a minimum wager I want that wager to be significant enough to make a substantial amount of money. I call it, making bullets and in this specific case I used a treble factor of 3 times the accumulated losses from my previous loss (in excess of minimums) which translates to $180.00 being wagered at line #25. That particular hand generated $720.00 as a result of two splits and double downs. (see attached strand)

Also it is very important to understand that I do not get into shoot outs while the trend is running in red blocks. In effect the rule there "is one and done" until such time as I either see a previously established trend or I record a green block.

CIPHER LAB is fully operational 24/7 and (at times) I almost wish that some
of these casinos would try to ban my play. But rarely does the casino even know that CIPHER is being used in a session as it is normally being employed for a specific client. With such exceptions as the Phoenician or Nostalgia or even Oasis Casino & Sportsbook. But these are very well funded operations that are not at all concerned about paying out withdrawals.

Lastly, the only reason that I have followed the path that I have is because of the fact that a gentlemen by the name of Jerry Patterson chose to share his knowledge and techniques in counting the six and eight deck shoe in land based applications. Had Jerry not shared that information I probably wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. Have a good one.

[snuf419]

The trends of any particular game can be recorded with only a pencil and paper...and everybody can do it. But how do you know for sure that after losing 10 hands in a row and win 1, that the losing streak has indeed ended and the next hand is going to be a winner?

I am still confused of what exactly your software does. Does it tell you, 'hey man, bet big on the next hand!' ?

Thanks for the reply.

[cipher]

The trends of any particular game can be recorded with only a pencil and paper...and everybody can do it. But how do you know for sure that after losing 10 hands in a row and win 1, that the losing streak has indeed ended and the next hand is going to be a winner?

I am still confused of what exactly your software does. Does it tell you, 'hey man, bet big on the next hand!' ?

Thanks for the reply.

Hi Snuf419;

I've had more than a few people say they can do the same thing that I do with a pencil and piece of paper. A couple of them have even tried it for a while until they realized that Cipher is able to track and record every action incident to a Blackjack session in realtime and provide that data at the click of a mouse to the player when that data is needed in making critical decisions while playing Blackjack. Have a good one.

[snuf419]

Does it tell you, 'hey man, bet big on the next hand!' ?

I have read all your posts regarding Cipher but I find no answer to this questoin. Again, with all due respect, until this mystery is solved... it still appears to me that what you are doing is 'chasing losses', just you are lucky enough almost every single time.

Thank you for your tolerance.


*Also, does an update to a software ever hurt you?

[cipher]

Does it tell you, 'hey man, bet big on the next hand!' ?

I have read all your posts regarding Cipher but I find no answer to this questoin. Again, with all due respect, until this mystery is solved... it still appears to me that what you are doing is 'chasing losses', just you are lucky enough almost every single time.

Thank you for your tolerance.

Snuf419; No problem, I only bet in accordance with the trend analysis as it is being recorded in realtime. But when I do make a significant bet I make damn sure that bet is going to make money if it does turn out to be a win, so that I'm using house money instead of my money to ride out the large runs of red.

The casinos would love to have people believe that their random number generators do not show patterns. But I'm here to tell you that they are sadly mistaken. You've just got to be able to see the pattern and act upon it.

Have a good one.

[cipher]

Cipher, do you have any guess as to why this may be? I have noticed that as well. Sometimes RTG is very slow and the winning hands are slim to none.

I have also noticed that the RTG software has tightened up again just as I posted a couple months ago. I played and the dealer got an unbelievable amount of 21's against my 20's, 20's againts my 19's etc. There was also a lot of dealer Blackjacks and pushes on BJ. Again I must state this is not scientific and just based on my gameplay. I also had a friend deposit in this casino and the exact same thing happened with him, he lost every hand right down to zero out.

Hi Black21Jack; Ya know the majority of the time this slow play stuff starts up after I've hammered the session for awhile. Almost as if their computer is trying to figure out how I play and tailor the values to that type of play.

I've had a couple of occassions where this slow play stuff jumped up and I made a point of hitting a stiff twenty (with a small wager in play) or something similar and I've had the computer just flat freeze up after that hit.

We need to hook up on a session and really take a look at the numbers. Have a good one.

[snuf419]

I noticed a lot of patterns in RTG and I myself have been making some money off them (of course the amounts are shameful compared to yours). Bet sizes, speed of the game, cards dealt (I also reached the same conclusion regarding your seed and dump 'theory'), streaks, even time between hitting the deal button are all related to the outcome of the day.

I don't have any hard evidence but RTG is beatable.