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    Preliminary generation of the games outcomes

    We had a sort of argument at Russian forum about what European/US/etc. players think about preliminary generation of the games outcomes. So I hope to hear it first hand .
    I mean usually we press "spin" or "deal" button and RNG generates the result immediately. But what if the same RNG will generate number (e.g. 100) of results (numbers on roulette, card decks, reels positions) in advance and later will give it to the player one after one (in exact order as generated). Same RNG, same interface, just another time of generation, will you play in such casino?
    And one more, some casino reps announced that such scheme is against European rules and casinos with it can't be licensed in Europe (Malta, Gibraltar). Do you think it's true?
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    This wouldn't be a very sensible thing for the casino to do.

    Using this method the result of the next spin is known before the bets are placed, if someone hacks in and finds those results, however well hidden they were they would exist, then he would just adjust the bet size accordingly. Remember that if somebody can build something then someone else can take it apart.

    As long as the casino didn't touch the pregenerated numbers it shouldn't make any difference to the RTP but if players knew they existed I don't think they would trust them.

    The safest way for all is to have the number generated at the time the spin/deal button is pressed.

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    Danger to the casino is understood, but we are talking from the players point of view... I understand that risks to casino increase risk to players, but I doubt that hack this system is easier than hacking player's account on the casino server setting +1000 USD .
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    BetVoyager already does it, providing players with SHA checksum.

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    The question is why software choose to use pre-generated sequence. In early days, due to limited computing power, in order to provide a large # of players with better playing experience, pre-generated sequence was OK, as long as no attempts to them. Nowadays, I could not give a reason, as High Pref servers are 1000 times faster and powerful. I think most MG servers are blade servers+SAN with high scalability.

    Any casino server still remain as tower model? do let me know...

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    Play some MG tournaments and you'll think they still use the same servers as they did when they opened their first casino...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlotMonster View Post
    BetVoyager already does it, providing players with SHA checksum.

    Correct. Also, it is impossible to decrypt; and generated outcome is out of the casino's control anyway. That's one of the few I would only play at.

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