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Old 5th July 2004, 04:06 PM
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RTG/Super Diamond Mine Question

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Ok...i'm not known for my mathematical prowess nor have i played this game too much but tell me, is this a theory that could work on Super Diamond Mine at RTG casinos?

SDM has this bonus feature where you build up diamonds and when you get to 99 you get a feature that can pay up to 4700 coins. Also, i think i'm correct in saying that when you leave the casino and come back later, and play it at the same denomination, it remembers how many diamonds you'd accumulated and you pick up from there.

So, could you not use a sign-up or monthly bonus to take it up to say 95/96 diamonds at a slightly larger denomination than you'd risk with your own cash (25C or 50c maybe or both?), then finish off your bonus elsewhere to avoid having to go through the WR requirements. Then deposit some real cash and return to each of the SDM games and take it to 99 diamonds thus, in theory, guaranteeing a quicker route to a win at a bigger denomination than you'd otherwise gamble? I appreciate to get a bonus you put your own deposit down, but even so, the wagers you're playing with could (should?) return that and more?

Put it this way, its not a guaranteed payoff but it reduces the risk when you know you're closer to a win when you bet real cash.

Now in practice it may not work like this, and of course you don't know what the bonus will net you, but in my head, it sounds like a plan? So shoot it down

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Well, it just so happens I am trying out all the different RTG games and played this on the weekend. I am thinking of reviewing all the individual games.

I was going back and forth between BJ and slots - replenishing my money with BJ, then playing it back down at slots etc.

And yes, the diamond count did get saved when I left. It was there when I came back.

What you win with 99 diamonds can vary enormously. Sometimes all the mines have substantial amounts, sometimes they are puny. There are always two mines that cave, and they are totally random. I think I hiot the 99 diamonds 5 times, twice I won next to nothing, once a medium amount and twice I did well.

Your theory may work. You will get more chaces at good wins for less money that way. The game seems perfectly random, so you will still never know if and what you win.
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The old adage probably holds true - "If the casino offers it, it probably isn't to the advantage of the players."

This diamond mine appears to be a variation of a loyalty program. Key issues here would the amount required to wager to earn a diamond, and the variance and probability in rewards from the 99 diamond level.

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Hi guys

Ok...i'm not known for my mathematical prowess nor have i played this game too much but tell me, is this a theory that could work on Super Diamond Mine at RTG casinos?

SDM has this bonus feature where you build up diamonds and when you get to 99 you get a feature that can pay up to 4700 coins. Also, i think i'm correct in saying that when you leave the casino and come back later, and play it at the same denomination, it remembers how many diamonds you'd accumulated and you pick up from there.

So, could you not use a sign-up or monthly bonus to take it up to say 95/96 diamonds at a slightly larger denomination than you'd risk with your own cash (25C or 50c maybe or both?), then finish off your bonus elsewhere to avoid having to go through the WR requirements. Then deposit some real cash and return to each of the SDM games and take it to 99 diamonds thus, in theory, guaranteeing a quicker route to a win at a bigger denomination than you'd otherwise gamble? I appreciate to get a bonus you put your own deposit down, but even so, the wagers you're playing with could (should?) return that and more?

Put it this way, its not a guaranteed payoff but it reduces the risk when you know you're closer to a win when you bet real cash.

Now in practice it may not work like this, and of course you don't know what the bonus will net you, but in my head, it sounds like a plan? So shoot it down

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I've played this game alot and can tell you that if you don't play max bet for every spin, then the amounts in the mines will decrease dramatically. I tried doing max bet for everything but the last 5 or 10 diamonds and when I got there, they were much less than the usual denominations you'd see. It also seems that its an accumulation type of reward. The longer it takes to get to 99, the higher the amounts in the mines. I've had more than a few sessions when I hit a cave-in on my first mine, not sure if that affected the subsequent mine visit or not.
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Hmmm. I must admit thats why, if i am going to do slots which is rare, i prefer the MG "Thunderstruck" model to the "bonus reveal" methos employed at RTG and Crypto. Far more fun watching them scatter rams run for 15 spins eh
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In progressive slots or feature slots it makes little sense to play anything but max amounts.

Your wins are way reduced if you don't, and you won't ever get the jackpot either.

They usually offer so many betting amounts that all you need to do is pick the slot that fits your budget - the one where you can always bet max.

If you run low on money or something, just switch to a lower denomination slot and bet max there. Becoming fond of any particular slot and playing it with less than max makes no sense at all.

There isn't much to know about how to play slots - this is pretty much it.

In diamond mine I think the smallest denomination is one cent, and the max bet in that version is 45 cents. You can bet a lot higher also, there are various denominations. You need to have a decent bankroll in feature slots. You need to hit the feature as often as you can.

The carry over of the diamonds in this slot is an unusual feature, and I think it may be possible to play it to an advantage doing what Simmo outlined.
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