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Thread: Enzo and 3Dice ... I have a request for you :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaHutti View Post
    And again, you try to put words in my mouth.
    Nowhere have I EVER said, that variance is unimportant, OR that I don't care about it. I said I know what that's about, and it's not the info I'm seeking.
    All I'm asking for, is the full picture, so that I feel the info posted on the website would be useful to me...that's it....no more, no less, so your long post, putting words in my mouth, and calling me disrespectful, is out of line, and uncalled for
    I don't blame you of anything....I'm stating the facts of what your posting style causes....
    I rather enjoyed your posts lately, as you have been civilized, and had I still been the happy owner of a thanks button, I would even have thanked some of your posts....but guess why THAT was removed, ...I'm just saying Nifty....there is absolutely NO reason to be challenging other members, in the way you often do. Personally I don't give a rats, and really, I think I'll survive without my button too
    ...but some people do care, and it has had consequences for quite a few members, and I think you know that.
    Let's by all means keep the peace, and try to respect eachothers opinions.....both ways.

    Enzo ?
    So its my fault that you lost your thanking privileges too? Oh give me a break. You lost them because YOU abused them by thanking posts that directly attacked other members.
    The fact that you even mentioning something from so long ago shows exactly who is "stirring the pot" here.

    Why is it that so many people blame everyone else for their own actions these days. The "its niftys fault" line you're peddling is the same thing the police hear from wife/kid beaters...."it wasn't my fault that I hit them...they should have shut up like I told them and it wouldn't have happened. The whole "he made me do it" nonsense is tiring and just another excuse to avoid personal responsibility.

    Don't post a whole lot of guff blaming me for yours and others poor behaviour I.e. directly insult me, and then claim you want to "keep the peace". You just wanted to get a few more jabs in before appearing to want some kind of truce. If you really wanted peace, you wouldn't have taken cheap shots in the same breath.

    I'm happy to stop this derail of yours right now by no longer participating in it....for the good of the thread and other members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    So its my fault that you lost your thanking privileges too? Oh give me a break. You lost them because YOU abused them by thanking posts that directly attacked other members.
    The fact that you even mentioning something from so long ago shows exactly who is "stirring the pot" here.

    Why is it that so many people blame everyone else for their own actions these days. The "its niftys fault" line you're peddling is the same thing the police hear from wife/kid beaters...."it wasn't my fault that I hit them...they should have shut up like I told them and it wouldn't have happened. The whole "he made me do it" nonsense is tiring and just another excuse to avoid personal responsibility.

    Don't post a whole lot of guff blaming me for yours and others poor behaviour I.e. directly insult me, and then claim you want to "keep the peace". You just wanted to get a few more jabs in before appearing to want some kind of truce. If you really wanted peace, you wouldn't have taken cheap shots in the same breath.

    I'm happy to stop this derail of yours right now by no longer participating in it....for the good of the thread and other members.
    Have a very nice day Nifty, and thank you for your interesting and enlightening views on my thread.
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    i would like to speak for enzo and 3 dice

    yes i would like to speak for enzo and 3 dice
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    , but i cant you see some things need to be addressed by those whom they were addressed to

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    I've hit a $250 payout on a 25 cent bet before, which sounds more impressive: chayton won $250 or chayton won x1000 bet?

    EDIT: Actually either one sounds good to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chayton View Post
    I've hit a $250 payout on a 25 cent bet before, which sounds more impressive: chayton won $250 or chayton won x1000 bet?

    EDIT: Actually either one sounds good to me!
    yep, both sound pretty good, but if you had won 1000X bet on a $1.5 bet your payout would have been $1500 ... on a $3 bet $3000 ....see the difference ?
    There are people who would never DREAM of betting 25 cents, so it might be nice for them to know, that someone actually HIT something (which I'm sure someone...some time did)...... on higher bets than 25 cents, which is why it would be great to see BOTH those numbers.
    That is my point.
    It's great that you can hit a 1000X bet, but imo WAY less great, if they only ever hit on 25 cent bets, and you always bet at least $1.50 .....
    There is a long way from talking about transparency, to actually BE transparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockycatt View Post
    yes i would like to speak for enzo and 3 dice
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    What did I miss?

    Who wanted you to speak on behalf of 3Dice?

    I agree that some "things" need to be addressed by those to whom the "things" were addressed....just not sure what "things" you're referring to.

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    Personally I don't think it matters that much. I've hit 500x+ hits at 3 dice whether betting 25 cents or 1 euro. Except on Tut, but thats another story!

    It's nice seeing the 1000x messages and whilst I agree, winning 1500$ off a 25 cent bet is more impressive than 1500$ from a 15$ bet, but either way, I don't think it makes any difference as to what your bet size is. If you're gonna win, you're gonna win

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaHutti View Post
    I've been looking a lot at 3Dice's statistics website, with all the fancy X-bet's, and thought....well, it looks pretty impressive, but really....it's worthless, if not misleading.
    Doing this and only stating the X-bet COULD be a very convenient way of making things look a lot better, than they really are (From a players perspective).
    There is a hugenormeous difference between a 1500Xbet win from a 15 cents bet and a 1500Xbet win from a $1,50 bet.
    If you have 300 people betting $1.50 at a certain game, and you list the wins of the 4 people betting 15 cents, it looks pretty impressive, but is misleading, and at best not interesting for the average player imo.
    So let's spice it up a bit Enzo, and get the REAL numbers, together with the X-bet ones, on the table ...it's a challenge, and I know you love those
    (I really don't hope you'll be using the "players privacy" excuse for not doing this, since you're already using players names on there).

    Remember folks, 3Dice is a very psychologically advanced casino.
    With that being said, sorry LaHutti, I don't see your point here...
    Besides the fact that this is a way to self promote within their own business; (smart)
    to entice other players that they could win "1000X" bet on Payola for example.
    To me, this is like saying that the glass is half full versus saying it's half empty.

    Lastly, from a business stand point, I think it looks better to state that a player
    won "1000X" bet rather than saying that a player won $150. I truly believe that if
    you were the head honcho of 3Dice, you would use "1000X" bet as well to self promote
    your business. Don't deny it, lol

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    It's Enzo with his Jedi mind tricks.. LOL Sorry had to lighten up the thread a little!

    I do understand his point tho. If I was a high roller I'm gonna look for big payouts. Now some machines on 3 Dice may only hit well with lower bets. So I would like to weed those out. Why waste 150 on one machine that really doesn't pay well if your betting 2. or 3, dollars when I can go right to the machines that pay better with bigger bets. That's why this info for me would be more important.

    Every casino has certain machines that play better with lower bets and ones that play better with higher.

    May the force be with you!!! sorry needed one more zing. lol

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