I really love Aristocrat games simply because

[Realitybitez]

they're very much based on the landline casino games (well around our way) I have finally found a casino that has some of my all time favorite games: 50 Lions, Miss Kitty, Queen of the Nile etc: Moneygaming

but I cant find any information on it on Casinominister. Anyone used it? Experiences please?

 

[plasticnote]

I believe aussie and kiwi are not allowed playing those IGT slots online. correct me if I am wrong

 

[Nate]

I love the Aristocrat Pokies as well...

About MoneyGaming:

MoneyGaming is an exciting re-launched brand operated by parent company GameAccount Global Limited, a leading platform, software and games developer. The company was founded in 2001 with its headquarters in the heart of London, UK.

Nate

 

[Nifty29]

The stupid thing is that nobody has EVER been charged under our gaming laws, which don't even prohibit online gaming, only the provision of gaming to Australian citizens. It doesn't stop anyone else, so I assume its aristocrats link to land based venues that is driving the ban. I can walk 5 minutes down the road and play all of them, but not at 84-88% RTP it ain't gonna happen.

Anyone who doubts that online slots are 95% RTP as advertised just needs to play our land pokies for a few weeks and you would no longer have doubts. The difference is night and day. I quit the land machines years ago and haven't looked back.

 

[Nate]

Anyone who doubts that online slots are 95% RTP as advertised just needs to play our land pokies for a few weeks and you would no longer have doubts. The difference is night and day. I quit the land machines years ago and haven't looked back.

I visited OZ a few years ago and played off a huge bankroll in some of your B&M Casinos - I must say, compared to other places, the difference in RTP was quite obvious.

Nate

 

[ShayDrew]

I believe aussie and kiwi are not allowed playing those IGT slots online. correct me if I am wrong

Just Aussies I think - Kiwi's are okay....

 

[plasticnote]

IGT wants us aussie to play at TAB or casino which has settings that 84-90%, that is sick.
I have seen people quickly pop in $500 on $1bet without even a bonus few times at TAB.
If you look at those slots, how it paidout online, most people will feel that they are scammed.

So even IGT will not allow us aussie playing its slots online, we will not go to those blood sucking local TABs.

 

[plasticnote]

The stupid thing is that nobody has EVER been charged under our gaming laws, which don't even prohibit online gaming, only the provision of gaming to Australian citizens. It doesn't stop anyone else, so I assume its aristocrats link to land based venues that is driving the ban. I can walk 5 minutes down the road and play all of them, but not at 84-88% RTP it ain't gonna happen.

Anyone who doubts that online slots are 95% RTP as advertised just needs to play our land pokies for a few weeks and you would no longer have doubts. The difference is night and day. I quit the land machines years ago and haven't looked back.

I agree with you on this Nifty. Anyone complain that RTG slots is ice cold and rigged please feel free to go aussie local TABs and play slots there. Afterwards you sure will feel much better with online slots RTP. Those pokies at local TABs are not only blood sucking cold, they are make you feel depress.

PS: I am still mostly playing MG slots as for all online slots games, MG has so far been the best choice. However, overall online RTP is far far better than land based pokies.

 

[Simmo!]

MoneyGaming is one of several Game Account properties and GA have an exclusive deal with Aristocrat which means they get *some* of their games for an exclusive period. 50 Lions, QOTN, Miss Kitty, 5 Dragons and Dolphin Treasure are the first 5.

Bet365 also have a deal with Aristocrat for some games and they have a few of the others like QOTN II, Werewold Wild etc, with more to follow.

There are 10 online at the moment (

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) but by the end of 2012 there will be around 30 Aristocrat games online. Aussies are blocked because Aristocrat are an Aussie company and the law is a shambles right now. NZ players are OK.

RE. MoneyGaming. They are perfectly safe but they do have a 72 hr reverse/cashout thing going on. Personally that means I now play the Aristocrat games somewhere else but in all other respects they were very good if you can put up with that.

So even IGT will not allow us aussie playing its slots online...

Like Aristocrat, that is because of the laws and that is unlikely to change anytime soon with that Xenophon politician bloke around.

 

[plasticnote]

MoneyGaming is one of several Game Account properties and GA have an exclusive deal with Aristocrat which means they get *some* of their games for an exclusive period. 50 Lions, QOTN, Miss Kitty, 5 Dragons and Dolphin Treasure are the first 5.

Bet365 also have a deal with Aristocrat for some games and they have a few of the others like QOTN II, Werewold Wild etc, with more to follow.

There are 10 online at the moment (

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

) but by the end of 2012 there will be around 30 Aristocrat games online. Aussies are blocked because Aristocrat are an Aussie company and the law is a shambles right now. NZ players are OK.

RE. MoneyGaming. They are perfectly safe but they do have a 72 hr reverse/cashout thing going on. Personally that means I now play the Aristocrat games somewhere else but in all other respects they were very good if you can put up with that.



Like Aristocrat, that is because of the laws and that is unlikely to change anytime soon with that Xenophon politician bloke around.

Hi Simmo:

When those days bet365 still accepts Aussie players, I can play few IGT slots with no problems. I do not know how bet365 did that?

However, since bet365 get into the Aussie betting market, we aussie players are no longer accepted.

That was the only site I can play IGT slots.

 

[Simmo!]

Hi Simmo:

When those days bet365 still accepts Aussie players, I can play few IGT slots with no problems. I do not know how bet365 did that?

However, since bet365 get into the Aussie betting market, we aussie players are no longer accepted.

That was the only site I can play IGT slots.

IGT slots were mainly hosted on their own RGS platform but a handful were also released as stand-alone games that could be rolled out individually to companies with their own game servers (Cleopatra was one of those, 50,000 Pyramid and a couple of others). IGT's RGS server had the country blocks hard-coded but the standalone games were down to the individual operator to control.

Bet365 added Australia to their blocked list this year and extended it to those IGT games to the best of my knowledge.

 

[jimb123]

Odds of bonus round on Aristocrat?

MoneyGaming is one of several Game Account properties and GA have an exclusive deal with Aristocrat which means they get *some* of their games for an exclusive period. 50 Lions, QOTN, Miss Kitty, 5 Dragons and Dolphin Treasure are the first 5.

Bet365 also have a deal with Aristocrat for some games and they have a few of the others like QOTN II, Werewold Wild etc, with more to follow.

There are 10 online at the moment (

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

) but by the end of 2012 there will be around 30 Aristocrat games online. Aussies are blocked because Aristocrat are an Aussie company and the law is a shambles right now. NZ players are OK.

RE. MoneyGaming. They are perfectly safe but they do have a 72 hr reverse/cashout thing going on. Personally that means I now play the Aristocrat games somewhere else but in all other respects they were very good if you can put up with that.



Like Aristocrat, that is because of the laws and that is unlikely to change anytime soon with that Xenophon politician bloke around.

I have a friend in Melbourne I was gonna visit but now not sure I wanna try their casinos... but did go to Winstar (2nd largest in world) recently and for fun played Aristocrat BUFFALO which I've seen people hit big on. I had so many Huge MISSES I decided to stick my bankroll to that game alone. Started counting to see how long til I hit 3 coins (free spin feature) and got to spin 456 and busted out. NO BONUS. I talked to the casino manager and they have no idea -- they just purchase the games on an assumed payout % and dont really look into the features/odds. I told him for entertainment value, the games sell on the idea of fun via the free spins so how does he know if the game is working or not -- of course this was tongue in cheek as I know the answer to that but wanted to feel out how well they know their machines. My guess is the odds are about 1 in 150 spins... and I had a terrible bad session. Had I not been counting, I would have moved on -- have to remember to never challenge a bad machine again. If anyone does know ODDS for Aristocrat games, love to see them.

 

[Simmo!]

I have a friend in Melbourne I was gonna visit but now not sure I wanna try their casinos... but did go to Winstar (2nd largest in world) recently and for fun played Aristocrat BUFFALO which I've seen people hit big on. I had so many Huge MISSES I decided to stick my bankroll to that game alone. Started counting to see how long til I hit 3 coins (free spin feature) and got to spin 456 and busted out. NO BONUS. I talked to the casino manager and they have no idea -- they just purchase the games on an assumed payout % and dont really look into the features/odds. I told him for entertainment value, the games sell on the idea of fun via the free spins so how does he know if the game is working or not -- of course this was tongue in cheek as I know the answer to that but wanted to feel out how well they know their machines. My guess is the odds are about 1 in 150 spins... and I had a terrible bad session. Had I not been counting, I would have moved on -- have to remember to never challenge a bad machine again. If anyone does know ODDS for Aristocrat games, love to see them.

Online they tend to revolve around the 95% mark. Buffalo is 94.85%. In land-based, no idea. I'd guess 85-90% in the US casinos but will probably depend on where they are.

 

[dillos]

i like these slot in my land slot room..my favorite is magic hat, more chilli , miner gold and 50 lion i think the rtp in italy is different the bonus trigger often.. sure you don't win big always but i have a plenty of fun time for my money and there is a local jackpot that start from 1000 euro in addition to the national jackpot that start from 100000 euro

 

[mattsgame]

I believe aussie and kiwi are not allowed playing those IGT slots online. correct me if I am wrong

Kiwis are fine, they have no laws prohibiting it.

The stupid thing is that nobody has EVER been charged under our gaming laws, which don't even prohibit online gaming, only the provision of gaming to Australian citizens. It doesn't stop anyone else, so I assume its aristocrats link to land based venues that is driving the ban. I can walk 5 minutes down the road and play all of them, but not at 84-88% RTP it ain't gonna happen.

Anyone who doubts that online slots are 95% RTP as advertised just needs to play our land pokies for a few weeks and you would no longer have doubts. The difference is night and day. I quit the land machines years ago and haven't looked back.

You would be correct, Aritocrat have a huge play in our land based market and just won't risk losing all those $$$. In saying this Aristocrat and IGT do not have the amount of machines they used to as we have seen some other players join the game.

I am not to sure how it works but RTG is primarily designed in Aus as far as I can remember, they also have another company that supplies land based machines (quite similar in the fact they almost all have jackpots like the random ones RTG have), so they have found a way to do both.

As for our land based slots, they are terrible. The best RTP versions of slots we have are the 50c to $1 machines which range from 90% to 93% but will cost you $3 - $5 a spin to even get close to that RTP.

Like Aristocrat, that is because of the laws and that is unlikely to change anytime soon with that Xenophon politician bloke around.

Let's not start this discussion, we will have a 200 page thread

Bet365 added Australia to their blocked list this year and extended it to those IGT games to the best of my knowledge.

They blocked Aussies from the Aritocrat games not too long after adding them to the site at Aristocrats request of course, they then blocked us out from the casino after they were approved for their Sports Betting license in the Northern Territory (which seems anyone can get)

 

[Balthazar]

Australia and Canada seem to be in the exact same boat when it comes to IGT, Aristocrat, WMS and Konami. Those companies claim that it's a regulation thing and that's why they don't allow us to play, but I strongly suspect that the real reason is they don't want to compete agaisn't their B&M market. They are major players in land based casinos here (and from what I understand, in Australia too).

They put their games in casinos that accept Canadian and Aussie players, but won't allow these players to play their games. So basically, they are saying "We're OK with them playing NetEnt and MGS regardless of the regulations, but not our games".

Bunch of BS...

 

[naththo]

I totally agreed. Why not let us Canadian and Aussie play these slot for goodness sake! We don't want to go to land based casino or pub to get a rather low pay out rate of 87.5% whereas online casino is like over 92% to 97% which is a lot better value for money to compare. It is so unfair that we can't play many slots if we are from Canada or Australia. Come on get real and do something as a favour to make it all equal and fair. Oh, I also realised that few more country cannot play these also especially on IGT, Aristocrat and WMS.

 

[mrmark21]

Yeah I rarely play at land based venues. So IGT and Aristocrat get pittance from me. I'm not impressed with them at all

I've been on a loosing streak online for the last month, so bad that I've temporarily stopped playing, can't seem to win a thing I went to my local venue the other day. Sat down and literally after a few spins won a jackpot (Cash Train Express). Good win considering at the moment I'm finding it near impossible to win ANYTHING online.

The Aristocrat slots are set at 89% at my local.

You can loose anywhere. The possibility is always there... Doesn't matter where you play.

IMO luck's what really matters