Looking back - it seems my biggest wins came from my smaller deposits and bets

[takethemoney]

Tonight I was thinking of my biggest wins and came to the realization that large deposits and large bets are entirely unnecessary.

Circa: 2009 - I hit 3 random jackpots at the Rushmore group, totaling over $40,000. I had deposited $100 and taken a 200% bonus, hit Sunken Treasure for over 10 grand and went on to hit another on Diamond Dozen for another 20 grand, then hit Mystic Dragon for over 11k. I had never bet over $1.20 on any of those games, at least when hit.

Same year - I hit Mystic Dragon at Casino Titan off a $200 deposit, taking a 100% match bonus, playing 75c per spin, while out shopping for groceries on autoplay. Came home to find that I had hit over $5500.

This year I had around $9 left out of a $50 deposit and hit a $2600 random at Bodog, playing Witches & Wizards.

This year again- Hit 2 randoms at Slotastic for over $12,000. This one again resulted from a $100 deposit with a 100% match bonus. We all know it's easy to make playthough, once you have a huge bank.

What I find astonishing, is the fact that when I put a large deposit in and bet like I have money, I get my ass absolutely kicked off the planet. I can't explain it, but it seems like RTG lays in wait for someone to make those large bets and summarily will hand you your ass and a broken bankroll back to you.

[Nifty29]

Tonight I was thinking of my biggest wins and came to the realization that large deposits and large bets are entirely unnecessary.

Circa: 2009 - I hit 3 random jackpots at the Rushmore group, totaling over $40,000. I had deposited $100 and taken a 200% bonus, hit Sunken Treasure for over 10 grand and went on to hit another on Diamond Dozen for another 20 grand, then hit Mystic Dragon for over 11k. I had never bet over $1.20 on any of those games, at least when hit.

Same year - I hit Mystic Dragon at Casino Titan off a $200 deposit, taking a 100% match bonus, playing 75c per spin, while out shopping for groceries on autoplay. Came home to find that I had hit over $5500.

This year I had around $9 left out of a $50 deposit and hit a $2600 random at Bodog, playing Witches & Wizards.

This year again- Hit 2 randoms at Slotastic for over $12,000. This one again resulted from a $100 deposit with a 100% match bonus. We all know it's easy to make playthough, once you have a huge bank.

What I find astonishing, is the fact that when I put a large deposit in and bet like I have money, I get my ass absolutely kicked off the planet. I can't explain it, but it seems like RTG lays in wait for someone to make those large bets and summarily will hand you your ass and a broken bankroll back to you.

OK, so in summary, your points are:

1. The RTP is lower when making large bets or large deposits

2. RTG operators have a way to detect when someone makes a large deposit and makes large bets and change the games to make it impossible to win

The fact is that you are incredibly lucky....and I mean incredibly.

I can't understand why you would complain or think that "something is up" when you have done so well. You do realise that you can't win every time, and that just because you make big bets you won't always win big? It's pretty simple really,.....if you bet big, you either win big or lose big.

Your suggestion that $100 and $200 are "small" deposits I do not agree with.....$25 would be a "small" deposit to most players I would think.

You also allude to making big bets after you hit the RJs. Obviously those bets did not bust you out, so how do you explain that? Wouldn't you think that then would be the time for the "automatic ass-kicker" to be activated and take back your winnings?

I get what you are saying about hitting most of your RJs on "small" bets (again...I wouldn't call $1.20 "small") and that it is indeed interesting. IMO you just spoiled it by going on to suggest that the software is somehow "rigged" and there is some kind of "intuitive AI".

[takethemoney]

OK, so in summary, your points are:

1. The RTP is lower when making large bets or large deposits

2. RTG operators have a way to detect when someone makes a large deposit and makes large bets and change the games to make it impossible to win

The fact is that you are incredibly lucky....and I mean incredibly.

I can't understand why you would complain or think that "something is up" when you have done so well. You do realise that you can't win every time, and that just because you make big bets you won't always win big? It's pretty simple really,.....if you bet big, you either win big or lose big.

Your suggestion that $100 and $200 are "small" deposits I do not agree with.....$25 would be a "small" deposit to most players I would think.

You also allude to making big bets after you hit the RJs. Obviously those bets did not bust you out, so how do you explain that? Wouldn't you think that then would be the time for the "automatic ass-kicker" to be activated and take back your winnings?

I get what you are saying about hitting most of your RJs on "small" bets (again...I wouldn't call $1.20 "small") and that it is indeed interesting. IMO you just spoiled it by going on to suggest that the software is somehow "rigged" and there is some kind of "intuitive AI".

I think you're reading way too much into my post, which is definitely not a bitch and whine type post. I just found it interesting that all my major wins have come from relatively small deposits and bets, which is all relative to the individual, just as someone else would consider a $25 or $100 bet on a spin the norm. I know people who play like this and I just can't fathom it. Yes, I have made some large bets when well ahead. Don't many gamblers do this in the hopes of catching a really big one?

[Nate]

The post was tongue in cheek 'Getting my ass handed to me' when I play big.

Why it is taken out of context and pulled completely off the rail like to OP wants to discredit RTG is beyond me.

For what its worth, I read exactly what you meant to say takethemoney. Sometimes low rolling (This varies per person) can dish out some nice game time and also give you a few extra spins to try and hit a nice multiplier. I have the patience to do it 'sometimes' but inevitably up the bet and increase the chance of me busting out faster.

WTG on those hits... I wish I could hit a random... although I don't actually play RTG.

Nate

[Casinomeister]

I think what is going on is that you're a lot more careful with a smaller bankroll and take less risks. Deposit 1k and go hog wild on Thunderstruck at $45 a spin. Hell, you will undoubtedly hit a smashing huge win - free spins w/retriggers - and then cash out 20k or so.

Yeah, right

It's all in your mind. Deposit $100 and go for TS at $4.50 a spin. See how long that lasts.

The grannies in Vegas have bank rolls of about $15 plus a coupon or two. They make it last a few hours.

@Nifty - please don't take the OP's initial post as an attack on RTG or common sense. It's merely an observance that many of us experience.

[Nifty29]

The post was tongue in cheek 'Getting my ass handed to me' when I play big.

Why it is taken out of context and pulled completely off the rail like to OP wants to discredit RTG is beyond me.

For what its worth, I read exactly what you meant to say takethemoney. Sometimes low rolling (This varies per person) can dish out some nice game time and also give you a few extra spins to try and hit a nice multiplier. I have the patience to do it 'sometimes' but inevitably up the bet and increase the chance of me busting out faster.

WTG on those hits... I wish I could hit a random... although I don't actually play RTG.

Nate

I just responded to a post, stating what I agreed with and what I didn't. Just like you. If one doesn't want to have opinions expressed or have someone take words out of context, one shouldn't post in public, or should qualify their remarks if they are "just kidding".

How is discussing what the OP actually said "taking it out of context" and "pulling the thread off rails"? I think you are making this personal....and it isn't....and that is what "pulls threads off the rails".

[Nate]

OK, so in summary, your points are:

1. The RTP is lower when making large bets or large deposits

2. RTG operators have a way to detect when someone makes a large deposit and makes large bets and change the games to make it impossible to win


I can't understand why you would complain .....

.....IMO you just spoiled it by going on to suggest that the software is somehow "rigged" and there is some kind of "intuitive AI"

How is discussing what the OP actually said "taking it out of context" .

The above quotes actually depict it being taken out of context... The OP did explain after your post what the intentions actually were.

I would agree that if I continue this it would attribute to a derail.

Nate

[chayton]

Well, back when I used to like Hitman, several times I hit some really nice wins ($200-$300+) and always when I was betting between 30-60 cents. A week or so ago I was a bit ahead and went to Hitman and bet $3, on my first spin I got free spins! I was quite excited about it for a minute....my free spin round paid me $4.20.

Anyhow I think the thing to remember is that you have more chances to win if you're betting lower simply because you get more spins for your money.

[incrediblestuff]

Tonight I was thinking of my biggest wins and came to the realization that large deposits and large bets are entirely unnecessary.

Circa: 2009 - I hit 3 random jackpots at the Rushmore group, totaling over $40,000. I had deposited $100 and taken a 200% bonus, hit Sunken Treasure for over 10 grand and went on to hit another on Diamond Dozen for another 20 grand, then hit Mystic Dragon for over 11k. I had never bet over $1.20 on any of those games, at least when hit.


This year again- Hit 2 randoms at Slotastic for over $12,000. This one again resulted from a $100 deposit with a 100% match bonus. We all know it's easy to make playthough, once you have a huge bank.

What I find astonishing, is the fact that when I put a large deposit in and bet like I have money, I get my ass absolutely kicked off the planet.

I just found it interesting that all my major wins have come from relatively small deposits and bets, which is all relative to the individual, just as someone else would consider a $25 or $100 bet on a spin the norm.

your highlighting the good points: it's simple statistics, that any bankroll needs the most wagers you can possibly extract from that bankroll to maximize your odds, simply because of the amount of spins: needless to say that as soon as you are ahead you would have to stop or you would be doing the opposite :P

casinomeister had also highlighted this, and so have nifty and nate more or less.

and yup, you were very lucky!


due to losing connection while typing, i see that chayton also stated this ^^

[Osloking]

I must say i feel same as OP, my biggest wins are made by 25-50dollar deposit, and the casinomeister has right, you are more carefull and notice over little thing as the slot is cold after few spin - move on


but when you have larger bankroll you going to play untill at least you get a future and when you get crappy result - you posibily going on tilt.