RTG Casinos

[m249a]

I simply gave up...I have been playing at land based and online for long enough to know the diffrence between a bad run and....dare I say it a rigged game...I have even played at less then reputable "under-ground" casinos and have seen better odds then I have lately @ RTG. The sheer number of high pushes and 20-21 wins from the house is ABSURD. I had only 3 accounts at various rtg joints, which are now closed. There is a diffrence, between a bad run and when the odds are clearly stacked against you. House edge or not, I have enough experience with blackjack to know that it is a BAD situation. I got a feeling some more players will be voicing similar experiences soon.

[cipher]

How long has this been happening? was it always like that for you, or just since they changed the software? I used to love RTG, but its just recently for me.

From tha data strips that I've reviewed so far it goes back to around the 4th or 5th of this month.

[caruso]

I've played hardly any RTG all month. What I have played has been high stakes and successful.

However, whenever I read praise for certain software types, and even when I mete it out myself, I feel a twinge. When is the PERFECT time to introduce a fix? Clearly, when player feedback is so positive that any criticism or accusations about unfair gameplay are liable to be dismissed out of hand based on players' positive past experience. I'm always waiting for this. We know the kind of people who are behind RTG, and I wouldn't put this past them for a second.

Players should always stay VERY alert on ALL matters of gamplay on ALL software types. The perfect time to stick the fix in is when players least expect it - and RTG feedback has been positive for a long time now.

NEVER be complacent, and NEVER buy bullshit "regulatory" statements, however honest and up-and-up you naively believe the issuer to be. It's your money, you have a responsibility to protect it and you can be damn sure nobody on the other side will.

[Black21Jack]

I've played hardly any RTG all month. What I have played has been high stakes and successful.

However, whenever I read praise for certain software types, and even when I mete it out myself, I feel a twinge. When is the PERFECT time to introduce a fix? Clearly, when player feedback is so positive that any criticism or accusations about unfair gameplay are liable to be dismissed out of hand based on players' positive past experience. I'm always waiting for this. We know the kind of people who are behind RTG, and I wouldn't put this past them for a second.

Players should always stay VERY alert on ALL matters of gamplay on ALL software types. The perfect time to stick the fix in is when players least expect it - and RTG feedback has been positive for a long time now.

NEVER be complacent, and NEVER buy bullshit "regulatory" statements, however honest and up-and-up you naively believe the issuer to be. It's your money, you have a responsibility to protect it and you can be damn sure nobody on the other side will.

I am very concerned about this especially if the individual casinos know that RTG has done this. I know a lot of RTG casinos are bad, but the few that are good namely from the Phoenician Group which has always been fair in paying, with customer service response, and they just seemed to be a very reputable group. I would always stand up for them and even promote them without being an affiliate. I wish the manager from Phoenician, or iNet or any other RTG would respond to this thread. From the posted experiences that this thread has generated it is not looking good for RTG casinos. It is sad.

[cipher]

I am very concerned about this especially if the individual casinos know that RTG has done this. I know a lot of RTG casinos are bad, but the few that are good namely from the Phoenician Group which has always been fair in paying, with customer service response, and they just seemed to be a very reputable group. I would always stand up for them and even promote them without being an affiliate. I wish the manager from Phoenician, or iNet or any other RTG would respond to this thread. From the posted experiences that this thread has generated it is not looking good for RTG casinos. It is sad.

I can tell you for sure that if there is anything untoward going on with the Random Number Generator at RTG, Dean Micheals at the Pheonician Casino will come down on Michael Staw and Realtime Gaming like a ton of bricks.

Having said that I've attached a Real Money session at the Phoenician from last night but I think I labled it as 6-24-04 instead of 6-23-04 as it should be.

Just to give you a sample, out of 64 hands played:

Dealer draws multi-card 21 against 19
Dealer draws multi-card 21 against 19
Dealer draws multi-card 21 against successful double down 21
Push on Blackjack
Dealer draws multi-card 21 against 18
Push on Blackjack
Dealer draws multi-card 21 against 20
Dealer draws multi-card 21 against 20

But the thing that bothers me more than anything is the multiple wins with a 12 to 3 ratio in favor of the house.

Last is the amount of what I refer to as "one and done wins" whereas the player has recorded 11 single wins versus the house having recorded only 3.

The winning clumps for the house are 3-8-2-2-3-3-3-6-2-3-4-2

The clumps for the player are 2-4-3

I know what I feel about numbers like this but I'll let everyone else form their own opinion.

I'll be posting another free play session recorded this morning in a while.

[Black21Jack]

I can tell you for sure that if there is anything untoward going on with the Random Number Generator at RTG, Dean Micheals at the Pheonician Casino will come down on Michael Staw and Realtime Gaming like a ton of bricks.

I would think so too, not just because this will hurt the business when people start realizing, but they are so straight at the Phoenician group, and Dean is very good with dealing with players and their concerns. The whole Phoenician CS is amazing. I just hope they get this straightened out soon.

[portia]

Have been a supporter of RTG sw and the very few well managed casinos, but the BJ and 21 games are NOT playing straight this month.

I'd like for some of the top notch casino managers to check it out with RTG.

I see Breakaway is offering repeatable 20% cashback on losses promo. No wonder they hit the gravey train with there sticky promos this month.

one player told me she lost 6 out of 7 attempts. Very few reporting winnings.

Caruso you were wise / lucky not to play RTG much this month.

[caruso]

Never mind the "top notch managers" - this is a player job.

Anyone with questionable results should approach the casinos in question to have their game logs provided by RTG. If they prevaricate / refuse, something is up and a boycott should be considered. Assuming the logs are provided, they should be pooled and analysed by a reputable, INDEPENDENT third party.

If they're found to be dodgy, big bad news for RTG.

[Phoenician]

for the record our house % is tracking exactly the same this month as it was last month for blackjack specifically. we always look into any issues that are brought to our attention in this regard. faulty software is as big an issue for any casino as the player so we do stay on top of this.

i have no issue supplying any players logs to the players just hit me up rather than support. or any other questions dean@phoeniciancasino.com


cheers




dean

[Black21Jack]

for the record our house % is tracking exactly the same this month as it was last month for blackjack specifically. we always look into any issues that are brought to our attention in this regard. faulty software is as big an issue for any casino as the player so we do stay on top of this.

i have no issue supplying any players logs to the players just hit me up rather than support. or any other questions dean@phoeniciancasino.com


cheers




dean

Thanks for posting Dean. As you know from my other posts your casino is my favorite and I always have backed up the Phoenician. I have just noticed some odd gameplay in all RTG casinos Blackjack.