3Dice's Super Suits+ VS Super Suits Regular

[Pocketdiggers77]

Super suits is like watching paint dry until you hit the bonus round. then is could be the best slot ever in my opinion. The bonus round is truly the Greatest Show on Earth. I think the Super Slots+ does give more bonus rounds and has better payouts. I remember back in 07 when I started at 3D, super suits cleaned me completly out from a $1400 balance because I didnt know how drastic the variance is. That was back when you could play $9.00 a spin though.

[Nifty29]

I asked for my RTP to be pulled for past 30/90 days on super suits plus.

Last 90 days: 69% (aprrox. 1800 spins)
Last 30 days: 33% (approx. 700 spins)

Not a large sample, but brutal none the less.
A year or so ago (maybe more) my RTP for supersuits over the lifetime of my account was at 119% (cannot recall how many spins it was)

So its pretty safe to say that I like the older version alot better.

When the plus version came out, we were told that the free spins come more often, and with more retriggers. I find the opposite true unfortunately.

Would you be able to post your data showing how often you get free spins and retriggers, compared to pre-supersuits+? I would be interested to see the degree of difference you are talking about here.

Enzo explained that more scatter symbols were added to the reels, and the retrigger multipliers were reduced to compensate. So, it is a fact that the scatters come up more often in the new version, which is why I'm interested in seeing your data.

Did you ask what your lifetime RTP is now for the game?

[funeral979]

I asked Ellen to give me my lifetime RTP of both games. She didn't know the exact date of when the game changed over, so I was looking over some old threads, and am guessing at 10/15/2010. So here you have it:

SUPER SUITS 4/30/2009 - 10/15/2010 2577 spins 120.13% RTP

SUPER SUITS PLUS 10/16/2010 - 10/20/2011 5868 spins 76.17% RTP

In order to get free spin and retrigger data, they said they would have to have the techs pull game logs. I might bug them for it later, but I am pretty confident that the discrepancy is just as large as the RTP you see above. Again, its not a big sample really...just my shitty luck with the newer version. It sure SEEMS like there are less scatter symbols though.

[all4greed]

Hit 12x twice this week without ever hitting it before. Think on the old version I hit 6x only once.

Still hard to get the bonus round going though...

[Nate]

I played the old version a while back...

Approximately $4400 start balance... (Max Bet $4.50) End Balance $0 ... Spins +- 700....

Seeing that you rarely see HUGE wins on this slot, does it really make sense to chase it. The amount of blank spins were nauseating. I can name 10 other high variance slots with better returns.

Nate

[Nate]

I played the old version a while back...

Approximately $4400 start balance... (Max Bet $4.50) End Balance $0 ... Spins +- 700....

Seeing that you rarely see HUGE wins on this slot, does it really make sense to chase it. The amount of blank spins were nauseating. I can name 10 other high variance slots with better returns.

Nate

Just checked... My bad... my end balance was around 1k... not 0... Over 3k lost in 700 spins playing $4.50.

Nate