Insiderslotsecrets Scam Alert (was "Is this worthwhile?")

[GrandMaster]

Good research, swampwitch. There is actually a tennis player called Giancarlo Capuccio, but there is no record of him winning or even being placed in a major tournament, so the claims of him being a celebrity or top 20 player appear to be exaggerated. If he were really a top tennis player, would he need to sell this sort of junk?

[jpm]

I'll give you the info in a nutshell that you'll find in virtually all of these 'slots secrets' books.

First they tell you to look for a slot that has only a 2 coin requirement for max bet, and a wild or multiplier symbol. Once you've found this (and they tend to be less prevalent than 3 coin or higher machines), play the $1 or $5 machines since they pay out a higher % than their .50/.25/.05/.01 cousins. And to check the payout percentages with the regulatory authority that covers the casino you want to play at.

Then it will go on to tell you to wager at the $$ level you feel comfortable starting with, say $1 and if you lose 1/2 your stake, drop down to the next smallest denomination machine, and repeat. Set a win limit and cashout when you reach it.

Then they go into the all important machine placement, which I think is no longer done in most casinos. Used to be they'd put the loosest machines in places to draw more customers, like near the doors, or at the beginning of a row, etc. I don't believe this is done any longer, and you're just as likely to find a winner by picking at random.

They also usually talk a little bit about the way a slot machine works. In an even smaller nutshell, every time you pull the handle or press the spin button, a random number generator pics a number which determines what combination of symbols, and thus the payout (if any) will be displayed. THEN it spins the reels and stops them on the appropriate symbols, but that part is all for show as the result has already been determined. Each spin is independent from the last, meaning you can have a jackpot spin right after a jackpot spin and the odds are the same for each spin. The payout % is controlled by a chip or switch setting inside the machine and can be modified by the owner (within certain ranges and depending upon the regulations in that location), so they can tighten or loosen any slot virtually any time.

I think the way to find the loosest slots is to ask one of the change people or better yet, the floor people who come and pay you when you do hit. Just ask them which machines are hitting and tell them you'll take care of them if you win (and then follow thru if you do).

They probably also tell to get a players club card and always put it in the slot machine before you start playing. It doesn't monitor your wins/losses, just cranks up the points based on playthru. This will increase the overall payout percentage by giving you a slight rebate for each spin.

That pretty well sums it up. Pretty secret stuff huh? (Send your $47 to me care of Casinomeister!)

p.s. I bought one of those e-books for ~$10 which is where I got this info from. Some of it is useful advice, and using the method of picking a machine right after I read this, I did get a pretty good hit on a 2 coin $1 machine, so it payed for itself.

[slotchik]

plus if he were getting rich playing slots, he'd give this book away and not charge for it ...OR waste his time doing this....
Hell, if he can make whatever he wants on slots, he'd be at casinos all day....
not online.

[jpm]

Originally Posted by slotchik

plus if he were getting rich playing slots, he'd give this book away and not charge for it ...OR waste his time doing this....
Hell, if he can make whatever he wants on slots, he'd be at casinos all day....
not online.

EXACTLY! Its like these stock 'geniuses' who claim they can make you millions of dollars by following their instruction. At only $200, this seems like a bargain, but if they are that good, why are they wasting their time on this garbage? They should be retired and living on their own caribbean island they bought for cash. I actually asked this of one such stock wiz who called trying to solicit me for his service. He didn't really have a good answer for me, and kept calling back trying to sign me up. Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money.

[gfkostas]

Guess he was just a really nice guy who wanted to help me make money. [/quote]



LMAO Give the guy a chance Jpm.He might really wanna help you financially .

[roulettelvr]

I signed up for the email news letter. Received the first one today, and it had the exact information the casinomeister said it would - how slots work, and playing single line, two coin slots. Apparently there is some sort of diagonal system as well which is alluded to in his testimony. I will let you know if he has other things to say. http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=40020#

[Coastie]

I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

In my opinion, the ebook is worthless, scattered with just enough "common knowledge" info to make it seem helpful to people.

I sent an email requesting a refund, well within the 90 day period, explaining that the information simply was not useful or helpful to me in any way.

I got no reply.

I sent another, still within the 90 day period.

No reply.

I sent a third email. By this time, the 90 day period had passed. This is the email that got a response.

Giancarlo sent me a link that he said would initiate a quick and painless refund. I followed the link, filled out the request form, and a few days later got an email from clickbank saying that they couldn't issue a refund because more than 90 days had passed since the purchase date. They suggested that I contact Giancarlo again and ask for an alternate method of refund.

I emailed Giancarlo again, telling him what they said, and asking for a refund again.

He responded with a short email that stated, "I'm sorry. The money back guarantee is good for 90 days ONLY."

I emailed him again, telling him that I did request a refund before the 90 day period (twice, in fact) but that he didn't respond to my emails until after the 90 days had passed. I once again requested a refund.

He again replied, telling me the same thing as the previous email, but adding "All transactions are strictly automated and if you've exceeded the limit there is nothing I can do."

I've just sent my final email offering him a final chance to issue a refund and informing him that if he still refuses, I will file a complaint with the BBB as well as fraud complaints. I will make it a mission to make his business practices known as widely as possible.

Granted, it's not a lot of money, but I'm doing this one simply on principle. If I had actually been late, that would have been one thing. But it is my opinion that this man intentionally waited to respond to me until after the 90 days.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


Rob.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by Coastie

I did order this ebook. I figured it wasn't much money and there was a 90 day guarantee, so I did it. I downloaded the ebook and studied it

In my opinion, the ebook is worthless, scattered with just enough "common knowledge" info to make it seem helpful to people.

I sent an email requesting a refund, well within the 90 day period, explaining that the information simply was not useful or helpful to me in any way.

I got no reply.

I sent another, still within the 90 day period.

No reply.

I sent a third email. By this time, the 90 day period had passed. This is the email that got a response.

Giancarlo sent me a link that he said would initiate a quick and painless refund. I followed the link, filled out the request form, and a few days later got an email from clickbank saying that they couldn't issue a refund because more than 90 days had passed since the purchase date. They suggested that I contact Giancarlo again and ask for an alternate method of refund.

I emailed Giancarlo again, telling him what they said, and asking for a refund again.

He responded with a short email that stated, "I'm sorry. The money back guarantee is good for 90 days ONLY."

I emailed him again, telling him that I did request a refund before the 90 day period (twice, in fact) but that he didn't respond to my emails until after the 90 days had passed. I once again requested a refund.

He again replied, telling me the same thing as the previous email, but adding "All transactions are strictly automated and if you've exceeded the limit there is nothing I can do."

And therein lies the scam i guess. Bet that happens to everyone.

Originally Posted by Coastie

I've just sent my final email offering him a final chance to issue a refund and informing him that if he still refuses, I will file a complaint with the BBB as well as fraud complaints. I will make it a mission to make his business practices known as widely as possible.

Granted, it's not a lot of money, but I'm doing this one simply on principle. If I had actually been late, that would have been one thing. But it is my opinion that this man intentionally waited to respond to me until after the 90 days.

If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them.


Rob.

[Casinomeister]

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[Casinomeister]

I'm moving this over to the Online Casino section to attract a larger audience.