MG Blackjack

[bethug]

ftg, the Baccarat at most casinos seem to be fixed. Rtg casino and worldgaming to me seem the fairest. I notice what every i pick the oppoiste get 5 to six in row wins. So i rotate my bets. Player, banker, player, banker, min bets progressive, not it dont work on intercasino or williamhill,

[sw2003]

Anyone of you knows the theoretical expected percentage of dealer's final
hands vs player's final hands for MG's Vegas Strip and Vegas Downtown BJ?

Something like

Dealer vs Player

BJ vs bust ?%
BJ vs BJ ?%
BJ vs 20 ?%
BJ vs 19 ?%
BJ vs 18 ?%
BJ vs 17 ?%
BJ vs others ?%

20 vs bust ?%
20 vs BJ ?%
20 vs 20 ?%
20 vs 19 ?%
20 vs 18 ?%
20 vs 17 ?%
20 vs others ?%

and so on?

Any one?

[Clayman]

Anyone of you knows the theoretical expected percentage of dealer's final hands vs player's final hands for MG's Vegas Strip and Vegas Downtown BJ?

For a 6D, standard Strip rules (Best I can do)

Outcome Dlr % untied tied total via dbling
11-16 0.00% 20.26% 0.00% 20.26% 3.94%
17 14.52% 9.36% 1.90% 11.26% 0.82%
18 13.93% 8.97% 1.77% 10.74% 0.82%
19 13.35% 9.57% 1.79% 11.36% 0.98%
20 17.96% 12.37% 3.25% 15.62% 1.32%
21,no bj 7.29% 5.00% 0.52% 5.52% 1.64%
BJ 4.75% 4.53% 0.22% 4.75% 0.00%
Bust 28.20% 15.94% 0.00% 15.94% 0.00%
Unplayed 0.00% 4.53% 0.00% 4.53% 0.00%
totals 100.00% 90.53% 9.45% 99.98% 9.52%

The last 4 columns apply to a BS player % of occurrence.

If you want to see final dealer outcome totals by initial dealer up card in full peek games, you can go to

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bjtourn-dealercharts.php

Vegas Strip would be 4D S17, DT BJ 2D H17.

[sw2003]

Great Clayman, thanks a bunch!

[bagofmaggots]

FTG I think you are right on the money. I had come to the same conclusions as you. I've played it to my advantage a couple of time and made some nice wins and cash outs. Unfortunatly I got hammered more often than not. I have no doubt it is not 100% randon. Suddenly jumping your bet from $5 to $100 will trigger something in the software to give the dealer greater odds. Have you noticed times when you have been winning well and raised your bet signifigantly and your lick completely disappears? When that happenss there is no hand you can win with if you have a 20 the dealer will draw a 7 card 21, or the dealer will get 4 or 5 blackjacks in a rom?, if you get blackjack the dealer gets one too. The more desperate you get to recover what you have lost the more incredible the dealers luck becomes.

[GrandMaster]

I have no doubt it is not 100% randon. Suddenly jumping your bet from $5 to $100 will trigger something in the software to give the dealer greater odds. Have you noticed times when you have been winning well and raised your bet signifigantly and your lick completely disappears? When that happenss there is no hand you can win with if you have a 20 the dealer will draw a 7 card 21, or the dealer will get 4 or 5 blackjacks in a rom?,

Save your playcheck logs in a spreadsheet and I will analyze them. How many hands have you played at the $100 level? You need to collect quite a lot of data to draw definite conclusions. Plain bad luck can explain quite a lot.
I seriously doubt that you have seen 5 dealer BJ's in a row, the probability is about 1 in 4 million. I have seen 4 BJ's in a row twice in 4 years, once for myself, once for the dealer (today).

This is a situation where more transparency by ecogra would be useful. It would be interesting to know whether they are testing that the probabilities are the same for all bet sizes.

[sw2003]

I just have a number of sequences of insane sessions playing MG BJ using autoplay flat betting at $1. I know my result is at least 2 standard deviations or probably 2.5 S.D. below expectation.

I have always tended to think that MG BJ games are fair. After seeing these crazy results, I hope you all will excuse me for having some doubt.

I will have to get the playlog if the casino will give them out.


I guess if you go outside enough times, eventually a pink elephant will fall from the sky and land on you.

[ShadyPlayer22]

well, i trust mg blackjack completely. I deposited $50 on friday and am at $2600 today.

two weeks ago I deposited $300, dipped all they way to $10. then built that $10 back up to 1900!!

my avg bet is $20 a hand, two or three hands multiplayer.I made lots of $50 and $100 bets and some occasional $200-400 bets. I find no difference in odds with MG blackjack.

I find that you get into spurts often (losing or winning sometimes as many as 7 hands in a row). You just have to bet small on the losing spurts and bet big on the winning spurts. Maybe you guys have been betting big on the losing spurts?