VP Payouts - 99.94% the best online?

[Simmo!]

Hi all

99.94% on Double Bonus VP at Cryptologic casinos and 99.54% on JoB at Microgaming...but aside from these two software providers, are there better odds to be had, or even any 100%+ optimum stragey VP games, at online casinos (preferably reputable!) ?

Actually, this raises another question: do all casinos that use MG or Wagerlogic s/ware all offer the same VP paytables or are they at liberty to define their own?

Its a mugs game eh!


Cheers

Simmo

[sw2003]

They cannot change the paytable too drastically otherwise they will either
lose too much or nobody would play those games with lousy paytables.
However they can and often do modify some of the payouts by shifting
a dollar here and a dollar there (or $5 if you play 5 coins). It is common to
see a 4-of-a-kind, fullhouse etc medium range winners being paid a dollar
less than optimal ($5 less if you play 5 coins). That is why there is
the so-called for example 9/6 and 8/5 Jacks or Better variants.

Someone corrects me if I am wrong!

[hhcfreebie]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

99.94% on Double Bonus VP at Cryptologic casinos and 99.54% on JoB at Microgaming...but aside from these two software providers, are there better odds to be had, or even any 100%+ optimum stragey VP games, at online casinos (preferably reputable!) ?

Actually, this raises another question: do all casinos that use MG or Wagerlogic s/ware all offer the same VP paytables or are they at liberty to define their own?

Wager logic and MG cannot change pay table by the casinos operators. It seems they can't change the payout of slots neither.
RTG can change their pay table any way they like. They can also change the payout of their slots.
Sci-fi and Breakaway both offer 100%+ payout on some of their VP games, up to 10 cents level. They pay in 3 days.

[Simmo!]

Originally Posted by hhcfreebie

Wager logic and MG cannot change pay table by the casinos operators. It seems they can't change the payout of slots neither.
RTG can change their pay table any way they like. They can also change the payout of their slots.
Sci-fi and Breakaway both offer 100%+ payout on some of their VP games, up to 10 cents level. They pay in 3 days.

Interesting - thanks hhc. I'd come across sci-fi but the nam eput me off - sounded a bit dubious I just found out RTG casinos can change theirs but we all know you take a gamble (sic) on some of these.

Rgds

Simmo

[jpm]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Interesting - thanks hhc. I'd come across sci-fi but the nam eput me off - sounded a bit dubious I just found out RTG casinos can change theirs but we all know you take a gamble (sic) on some of these.
Rgds
Simmo

Check double double jackpot at RTG casinos, I think that one runs just over 100% at some of them. I was playing this last nite and ran the analysis and I think it was over 100%.

[hhcfreebie]

Originally Posted by jpm

Check double double jackpot at RTG casinos, I think that one runs just over 100% at some of them. I was playing this last nite and ran the analysis and I think it was over 100%.

Their double bonus poker (10/7) do pay 100.17%, up to 10 cents level. I prefer their deuces wild, its variance is lower and pay better (100.76%).
To be honest, I hate variance. The lower the variance the better for me. If there is a game offer 100.01% payout with zero variance, I'd quite my job and play it day and night!
Sometimes, progressive video poker will have over 100% payout when the jackpot is high enough. I always check the slotchart before I play, here is the link:
http://www.slotcharts.com/videopoker.php

[sw2003]

Originally Posted by hhcfreebie

Their double bonus poker (10/7) do pay 100.17%, up to 10 cents level. I prefer their deuces wild, its variance is lower and pay better (100.76%).
To be honest, I hate variance. The lower the variance the better for me. If there is a game offer 100.01% payout with zero variance, I'd quite my job and play it day and night!
Sometimes, progressive video poker will have over 100% payout when the jackpot is high enough. I always check the slotchart before I play, here is the link:
http://www.slotcharts.com/videopoker.php

Is that site paid for by GlobalPlayer? Why are they on top of everyone else
on almost everything?

[Simmo!]

Yeah but thats an interesting site nonetheless - the constantly updating page is a nice touch! Thanks hhc. jpm: i have a couple of RTG casinos here (Cirrus and Goldcircle) but the stats on their VP paytables always seem to be around 98.5% tops.

But Double Double Bonus Poker sounds like fun :-) And the old 100-hand thing looks amusing too...might have to give that a bash at 1 pence a hit!

Anyone come across Triple Bonus yet?

[9wishes]

Pickem has a simple to learn strategy (I have Jean Scott's Frugal VP program, it's great!). At full pay it's 99.99%. I also ran the Joker Poker paytable through the software and it came out positive (over 100%), but that sequential royal may have something to do with it, plus not all places pay 20,000 for the SR, at iNetBet, on single line it's 50,000 for instance, so math wizards, do your thing. I find that the 100 for 4 of a kind makes this a more often than not profitable game for me. You won't find that in Vegas with 7/5. Really spoiled me for Joker's Wild in Vegas, most pay 85 for 4oak. Also, watch for Pickem paytables to be altered to short pay it. Full pay would be 6000-1199-600-90-75-55-25-15-10. Common alterations I've seen are the 90 to 75 and or the 55 to 50. Also a tough game to find in Vegas at full pay now.

[jpm]

Originally Posted by Simmo!

Yeah but thats an interesting site nonetheless - the constantly updating page is a nice touch! Thanks hhc. jpm: i have a couple of RTG casinos here (Cirrus and Goldcircle) but the stats on their VP paytables always seem to be around 98.5% tops.

But Double Double Bonus Poker sounds like fun :-) And the old 100-hand thing looks amusing too...might have to give that a bash at 1 pence a hit!

Anyone come across Triple Bonus yet?

I prefer the 100 hand versions for a penny at full bet. Its quite fun. And I was playing double double jackpot the other nite when I was dealt a full house, aces full of queens. At first blush you think, hold that hand and take the quick 4500 coin payout, but I ran it past Bob Dancer's Winpoker and it said to toss the queens and go after the 4 aces which pay big $$. Well he was right, I did that and ended up with a payout over 12000 coins! Hit something like 6x4aces and a couple of 4 aces with JQK for 1750 coins. Be sure you know the right strategy, or have a reference handy, when playing a game like this. It can be tricky!