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Thread: A tutorial how to spin just a bit quicker in a slot tournament (Microgaming)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jufo View Post
    Very interesting stuff. I wonder how many players already knew about these tweaks and have used them to their advantage (I'd be surprised if VWM didn't know this). They probably hate you now that you exposed their secret.
    This is actually the HARD way to tweak the tournaments, but it is correct to say that as MGS software has changed, the tournaments are MUCH slower than before.

    These tweaks, whether done the hard way or the "easy" way will only help with the client PC process (the casino lobby), and do nothing to address the REAL issue, which is the rate at which the tournament servers can cope. The servers seem to trip up when the spin delay gets to around 3 seconds between spins, and making them any faster seems to have the OPPOSITE effect because the server is unable to even keep going at 3 seconds between spins, and can take up to SIX seconds to process them. This is the "glitch" in the MGS software.

    These tweaks are only going to be useful where there is more than 3 seconds between spins, and used to target an optimum 3 second gap.

    Autoclickers often work better than autoplay, but can fall over when there is a delay caused by animations etc, and will actually click too early, and so you miss a spin.

    I have looked into a number of tweaks, including things that clean the registry, get rid of junk files, optimise the internet connection, etc.

    There is a case I know of where Microgaming banned a player for "playing too well" in the tournaments, and caused many other players to cry "foul" because he seemed to win too often. There was also a suggestion that he used multiple aliases by playing the same tournement through different casinos, yet Microgaming changed the rules to allow this during the run up to the first "Grand Slam" tournament, and never changed them back. It seems odd therefore that this is deemed "cheating" by MGS when it was they who ABOLISHED the initial "one alias throughout the MPV network" rule that required players to use the same alias in all casinos they played MPV in.

    There are many threads here where players have cried "foul" against small groups of players who seem to buy their way to the top, yet this is Microgaming's doing, and possible because they now offer 999 continue and 999 rebuy tournaments.

    If Microgaming tweaked the tournements themselves for top performance, there would be no need for players to keep looking into why they are so DAMN SLOW compared to the normal lobby games, and look for ways to improve their performance.

    After all, if you are an athelete and keep finishing near the bottom of the field, you don't just accept it, you TRAIN HARD in order to improve your performance. It makes sense therefore that MPV players will try to improve their performance in terms of spin speed to the best of their abilities, but unlike athletics where this might yield a gold medal, the world of casino tournaments is just as likely to award you a ban for your outstanding an consistent performance.

    Atheletes often employ a personal trainer, so "employing" a tweak designed by others for MPV is no different.

    NO competitive event is ever going to be "fair" in the sense that the top performers will deliberately handicap their abilities to give the weaker competitors a better chance, so if Microgaming assumed they would, they really don't have the slightest clue on how competitive events, and the mindset of participants, works.
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    It used to make a big difference for a very short time right after these tournaments was lauched. But shorty after MG increased the playtime so it seemed everyone should have
    plenty of time to finish it. So it this hack really necessary anymore?

    It can be discussed if you are manipulating the software the way VWM descibes.

    However there are other ways to increase the spintime which certainly does not manipulate the software in anyway. Only the OS is configurered differently.

    But you must have a really slow computer if you need more time. The fair and correct solution would be MG simply just increased the time to a level where was totally certain people could finish their spins. (But I think they did that allready...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoozie View Post
    It used to make a big difference for a very short time right after these tournaments was lauched. But shorty after MG increased the playtime so it seemed everyone should have
    plenty of time to finish it. So it this hack really necessary anymore?

    It can be discussed if you are manipulating the software the way VWM descibes.

    However there are other ways to increase the spintime which certainly does not manipulate the software in anyway. Only the OS is configurered differently.

    But you must have a really slow computer if you need more time. The fair and correct solution would be MG simply just increased the time to a level where was totally certain people could finish their spins. (But I think they did that allready...)
    Only in a small number of tournaments, so the search to improve system performance is still very much necessary.

    The upgrade to HD caused a significant slowing of the tournaments, even the normal lobby slots, so more basic PCs were again placed at a significant disadvantage.

    Microgaming have also increased the load on the servers by having more tournaments, and many more continues and rebuys in each.

    The calculation of how much time should be given is also very poor, and no account seems to be made of the max bet on the game, hence you have Thunderstruck tournaments with a max bet of 45 coins, yet so little time that barely a quarter of the coins bought can ever be played.

    The problem is even more obvious when looking at tournaments with many continues, and there is a HUGE range of "coins left" shown on the scoreboard, and it is obvious that in these events, spinning fast gives you a MASSIVE advantage over those who can only rely on a rare big win to boost their score.

    There are many tweaks that make small improvements to spin speed, but when added together, a significant improvement can be achieved.

    Unless the exact cause of the problems can be found, it is a case of trial and error. Microgaming say there is nothing their end that could cause this poor performance, and I have this in writing via a casino tech query, and more than once.

    Therefore, we cannot "cheat" a system that does not exist, surely, so if Microgaming say it is all due to OUR "end", then they won't have a problem with us getting "better ends" in order to improve our performance, just as atheletes are not penalised for putting in more hours of training in order to improve their performance in the actual event.
    In order to break rules, there has to be rules in place TO break, and so far MGS MPV tournaments are advertised as "spin as fast as you can to.....", with no rule restricting you to a specific upper limit on spin speed. Since the lobby is nothing more than a client interface, tweaking the running processes, allocating priority, memory, etc, is just another local OS tweak, and does NOT involve reverse engineering the Viper client, and/or building a "bot" to interface directly with the tournament server.

    It may be that the banned player went beyond this tweaking, and discovered a hack that, say, allowed them to have more continues than allowed, or add extra coins to the winbox that were not legitimately earned through play.
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    I think these tweaks surpass my PC knowledge even with a tutorial via You Tube. I'll stick to just turning all the sounds off.

    HD at MG, is there a special download for this? And what do you need other than an HD TV? How long has this been around for?

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    try searching for microgaming HD :P

    I could not help to laugh, there is a dream machine for microgaming slot playing

    Comes up top in google if u search could not help to laugh hehe

    Velocity Micro Gaming PC; 2.33GHZ 300GB HDD 2GB Ram Duo Core Dual CD Drives Windows Vista Install Disc Included(100$ Value.

    If you check link just underneath, it tells about microgaming HD.
    Its actually their live games like blackjack, roulette etc so not slot games.

    http://www.quickfiregames.co.uk/Live.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    There are many tweaks that make small improvements to spin speed, but when added together, a significant improvement can be achieved.
    Could you write a summary of all such tweaks so we can all become "professional slot tournament athletes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaaskeDKnowUK View Post
    try searching for microgaming HD :P

    I could not help to laugh, there is a dream machine for microgaming slot playing

    Comes up top in google if u search could not help to laugh hehe

    Velocity Micro Gaming PC; 2.33GHZ 300GB HDD 2GB Ram Duo Core Dual CD Drives Windows Vista Install Disc Included(100$ Value.

    If you check link just underneath, it tells about microgaming HD.
    Its actually their live games like blackjack, roulette etc so not slot games.

    http://www.quickfiregames.co.uk/Live.aspx
    No HD slots at Micro Gaming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jufo View Post
    Could you write a summary of all such tweaks so we can all become "professional slot tournament athletes"
    I'll answer for Vinyl. Nope!

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    I've had a discussion about this on another well known casino portal, people there told me about letting the software finish downloading its updates. And I posted a possible solution there about changing the priority in the process manager. So this isn't a secret.

    Doesn't matter allot though, especially when playing freerolls, as it usually comes down to 1 big hit. And you get one of those early on in your game, not in the last few seconds.

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