"An arrest warrant has been issued for the Vice President of World Games Inc, Quentin George, believed to be in Australia."
Didn't you say that no officers were under investigation? Just independent representatives?
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"An arrest warrant has been issued for the Vice President of World Games Inc, Quentin George, believed to be in Australia."
Didn't you say that no officers were under investigation? Just independent representatives?
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You are too much, do you know how to read, go back and read my posts. From WGI, no warrant is issued for Quentin George, he is not the VP of WGI he was the head of global operations and voluntarily stepped down until the court proceedings are over. As I said only distributors have been charged, and that is the reason Quentin George was not charged because he was not promoting the products, the members (distributors) were.Originally Posted by mary
We can confirm, as you would already be aware, in September 2003 the Alberta Gaming & Liquor Commission commenced criminal proceedings against seven (7) members of WGI and WGI’s former President of Global Operations, Mr Quentin George. The proceedings are essentially that those accused were involved in the management and promotion of an illegal lottery and pyramid scheme. The matter is set down for trial on 27 November 2004. The WGI members the subjects of the proceedings have now been formally charged (Mr Quentin George has not been charged). Whilst the matter seems destined to go to trial, WGI is very pleased with the progress of the matter and the preparation of the trial lawyers. Based on the Lawyers’ first round of interviews, it seems that the members charged will enjoy the support of over twenty witnesses. These witnesses have been described by the lawyers as ‘substantial members of the community’ and include police officers and Alberta Gaming Commission employees!
Last edited by Black21Jack; 10th June 2004 at 03:14 AM.
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Read this thread:
http://www.masteroftheweb.org/forum/showthread.php?t=51
Why were WGI members told all charges in Canada were dropped?
Why does an international company doing Internet information business rely on word-of-mouth to tell their own marketing reps what is going on? Haven't they heard of...email?
What can you tell us about the vulnerability of the Stock Market game to runs?
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Again, wrong information. WGI has never told any members that the charges were dropped, in fact they have been quite vocal about what is going on and because there is such a long wait for trial dates here in Canada there has not been much news on the subject until I received the official email from WGI yesterday, which I will again post here incase you are too lazy to go back and read my previous posts. They do not rely on word of mouth, WGI holds leaders forums where they discuss all the current issues regarding the business with the top leaders from each country. The latest forum was held in Singapore. After the leaders forum WGI sent an email newsflash with all information about what was discussed, the focus of the business and where they are headed. Not only does WGI send the newsflash and updates to all their members by email, as well as post it in the members lounge that all members access when they logon to their sites they expect the leaders to inform members in their downlines about what is going on. Please explain in more detail what you mean regarding the SMG (Stock Market Game). Here again is a copy of the official email sent out by WGI regarding the charges in Alberta and the status, as well as the accusations made by Karen Suchar of the RCMP that is circulating the internet. So once again your information is wrong, whenever there is a news item or update the members are immediately informed by email, so yes they have heard of email.
Dear WGI Member
Thank you for your enquiry.
We have received numerous enquiries raising concerns about a letter from Sergeant Karen Suchar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada). We echo your concerns and agree that such correspondence is unacceptable where to date, there has not yet been even a trial in respect of this matter.
We can confirm, as you would already be aware, in September 2003 the Alberta Gaming & Liquor Commission commenced criminal proceedings against seven (7) members of WGI and WGI’s former President of Global Operations, Mr Quentin George. The proceedings are essentially that those accused were involved in the management and promotion of an illegal lottery and pyramid scheme. The matter is set down for trial on 27 November 2004. The WGI members the subjects of the proceedings have now been formally charged (Mr Quentin George has not been charged). Whilst the matter seems destined to go to trial, WGI is very pleased with the progress of the matter and the preparation of the trial lawyers. Based on the Lawyers’ first round of interviews, it seems that the members charged will enjoy the support of over twenty witnesses. These witnesses have been described by the lawyers as ‘substantial members of the community’ and include police officers and Alberta Gaming Commission employees!
Despite the above, WGI is concerned that this latest information has allegedly come from two members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and notes the letter clearly presumes guilt of the members involved. We agree that the phrase “innocent until proven guilty” appears to have been all but ignored and certainly the implications (and factual inaccuracies) contained in Sergeant Suchar’s letter, are extremely damaging to World Games Inc operations where her letter contains rash generalisations and blurs the line between fact and fiction.
Further, the fact that a trial in this matter is still pending, means that such publications from representatives of Canada’s own law enforcement body will severely prejudice any hearing of the matter in Canada and we expect that this issue will be raised with the Canadian Authorities. WGI and our lawyers in Canada will also be carrying out their own investigations into the legitimacy of the letter, as neither our organisation nor our lawyers in Canada have ever been approached or contacted by Sergeant Suchar or Detective Bob Keys in respect of this matter. As soon as we are able to determine the source of this letter, we will consult with our lawyers as to the further actions available to WGI in ensuring that its reputation is not tarnished by such blatant and prejudicial tactics.
Whilst it has been WGI’s policy to date, following legal advice, to refrain from making any comments regarding litigious matters whilst the matters are before the courts, the prejudicial and damaging comments contained in Sergeant Suchar’s letter warrant some comment. To clarify the specific issues raised in Sergeant Suchar’s letter, our comments (in bold blue) are as follows:
THE EMAIL SAYS: “It is our belief and that of the Attorney General of Alberta that World Games Inc. is operating an ILLEGAL Pyramid Scheme in addition to promoting an ILLEGAL lottery. Following our investigation, criminal charges were laid in September of 2003 against seven Albertans as well as one Australian for contraventions of the Criminal Code.”
OUR RESPONSE: We have taken legal advice in Canada and we are very confident that WGI is NOT operating an illegal pyramid scheme, nor promoting an illegal lottery in Canada and we look forward to being provided with the opportunity to defend this matter at trial (if the Canadian authorities proceed with the matter). Again, WGI has taken legal advice and WGI remains firmly of the view that the charges will be absolutely and successfully defended and WGI is in fact funding the defence of the members concerned.
THE EMAIL SAYS: In addition, World Games Inc. and Greg Kennedy have been charged in Australia by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and will stand trial June 7, 2004 for Pyramid Selling offences in accordance with their Trade Practices Act.
OUR RESPONSE: This information is incorrect – World Games Inc has not been charged with any offence in Australia whatsoever. The charges have been laid against an entity that provides limited administrative services to the business, known as “World Play Services” and WGI remains confident that the proceedings are misconceived and their effect has mostly been misreported as they are not against WGI. The fact that the membership of WGI is not open to Australian residents and access to the site is blocked to Australian computers is something that has been overlooked in many reports. It is also very important to note that no-one has been “charged” at all in Australia – the proceedings against World Play Services are not criminal proceedings.
THE EMAIL SAYS: A conviction was also registered in March against a Swedish WGI member for promoting an illegal lottery in association with World Games Inc. It is also our information that Scandinavian Police investigations are continuing.
OUR RESPONSE: On 31 March a Swedish woman was convicted for offences in relation to her promotion of WGI. The decision was not against WGI and WGI took no part in the proceedings. Indeed, WGI determined as early as September 2002 (when the charges were first laid) that it would not provide any support to this member on the basis that it was her conduct, in breach of the WGI Policies & Procedures that led to the charges. The Swedish court effectively confirmed WGI’s position, finding that the woman’s method of promotion and various misrepresentations gave rise to the charges. WGI considers that the true nature of the decision (ie. a decision against a rogue member and not at all a decision against WGI) is appreciated by the majority of members and that the case has not had any significant impact on member confidence.
THE EMAIL SAYS: Should you wish to review the details of our investigation and other criminal convictions and charges around the globe, I urge you to view the attached “Word” documents. If we can be of any further assistance to you, please feel free to contact us directly. I have also included an internet “link” to the official website of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police which provides information regarding Pyramid Schemes.
OUR RESPONSE: As you will note from the information above, The Word documents attached to the letter contain statements which are both incorrect and out of date and have not been provided with any authority or information as to who has created these documents. Also, the mere inference (in providing a link to the Canadian Police website topic about pyramid schemes) that WGI is conducting a “pyramid scheme”, is a complete misrepresentation and totally prejudicial in its inference to WGI’s business and the Canadian proceedings currently on foot.
Finally, we note that the materials provided by Sergeant Suchar are targeted against the WGI business and its purported illegal operations (despite the absence of any charges against the operating company in any country). A common theme throughout this documentation is that WGI is a pyramid scheme because the only way you can make money is by recruiting others. THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. It is clearly stated in the WGI Policies and Procedures that it is possible to use the WGI products and services without recruiting anyone and still be able to win money. The multi-level marketing option available is only for those who want it, and in fact most users of WGI products do not participate with the multi-level marketing aspects, but instead prefer just to PLAY and HAVE FUN!!!
WGI will be thoroughly investigating its rights and legal options available to it to prevent further distribution of such materials and obtain sanctions against the police officers involved. WGI will continue to strive to ensure that risks posed by these matters are minimised and will keep you informed of any developments.
Kind Regards
WGI Press Enquiries
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I would rather not copy the entire first post of that thread here, as it is bad form to do so.
Since it is by a WGI member who has been posting positively about WGI, I was surprised at the lack of agreement betwenn your information and his. For example:
" brought up several issues that has been discussed here on the forum. Like the lack of information, the situation in the stock game, the arrests made in Canada and WGI's financial situation. Since he is just a normal member, he expressed that he did not know anything more than the information that is currently available to the other members through the leaders in each country.
The lack of information from WGI
WGI does not announce official informaion before its a 100% correct and that it will be carried through. Information is given to leaders in each country. Its their responsebility to pass the information down to their downline, to their sonsored members. Its then again those members responsebility to inform their sponsored members.
Ofcurce I aksed about what those who are sponsored by an inactive sponsor should do. If possible you should go to your sponsors sponsor (or grandfather if you will) and ask for assitance. Or find one of the many WGI communities on the internet. The lesson learned here is that being a sponsor has a responsebility, the responsebility to help your downline to success. Make sure that you understand that reponsebility, and only sponsor people that you would want to work with. Remember that just registering a member, does not give much you money either, close to nothing. If you dont help your sponsored member to duplicate yourself and your work, you will not succed with WGI, or most likely not with any MLM company.
And if you are not a member, make sure you find a sponsor that you can trust, and will be happy to work with (not work for). Joining some affiliate link posted somewhere is not an good idea, not that I think anyone would be that stupid anyway. "
The vulnerability of the Stock Market Game to "panic selling", especially after a jurisdiction must be removed from the game, is brought up. WGI members were told that charges were dropped.
Supposedly, the stock market game, and additional gambling games? are the "product" WGI sells.
Is it possible to play these games without participating in the recruitment of other players?
If so, how much does it cost? Is it more or less than playing the real stock market? What are the other gambling games offered? Are they competitive with gambling products already on the market?
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>Mary
WGI provides a full range online casino powered by Chartwell Technology featuring 35 casino games and online bingo as well.
You can at all times participate both casino games, Stock Market game, globelot lotto services and the sweepstakes8 lottery without any need for recruiting whatsoever.
Recruitment of 2 members or more is only required to receive commissions on other peoples turnover in the provided games.
From June 7th and the next 8 weeks WGI runs a Euro 200/200 matchplay promotion and thereafter a 50% bonus up to Euro 200. See my other post on that subject.
You need to be a member to participate in the games but with the current promotion you actually can pay your membership and then some. Lowest membership fee is a onetime fee of Euro 65 wich includes a Visa Electron card, for easy withdrawals, and tickets in the lottery.
In August a free membership is launched without any connection to the business part. That membership will only grant access to the games as in any other online casinos or gambling sites.
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Managed to secure 125,000 more shares at 0.08 Euro each, or a total of 10,000 Euro as I said I would, and just sold them this morning for 0.13 Euro each for a total of 16,250 Euro. Minus out my 10% brokerage fee of 1625.00 Euro and the original 10,000 Euro I bought with and I have a nice little profit of 4,625 Euro in a week. Say what you will, talk all the BS you want about WGI but I have never made the amounts of money in such short periods as I have since I joined this business.
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Out of curiousity, how long ago did you join?
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*are there playthrough requirements before cashing out?
*are there charges for cashing out?
*can withdrawals be done by means other than the Visa Electron card?
*does the Electron card charge an annual fee?
*are the withdrawals submitted to VISA as reversed merchant charges?
*can Americans play at the casino?
*Are Americans eligible for the VISA card?
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If you are asking me, I have been in it for a little over a year now. May 2003
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