A Question about 32Red...

[Gremmyboy]

Just a curiosity really...

I was wondering if 32Red are contractually bound to only use MG software?

Reason I ask is I was wondering what is to stop them opening up an RTG powered casino and a Playtech powered casino.

They are decent softwares and any casino run by the 32Red Team would operate the casinos to their usual standard.

I get very bored with MG at times and think that the other softwares would offer some new games and excitement.

Imagine a world where we could play at a 32Red run casino but have a choice between the three major softwares.

I, like a lot of players get bored with just one software for any length of time.

This would be a welcome solution to the ever growing trust issues as well!


Cheers
Gremmy

 

[De Beuker]

Just a curiosity really...

I was wondering if 32Red are contractually bound to only use MG software?

Reason I ask is I was wondering what is to stop them opening up an RTG powered casino and a Playtech powered casino.

They are decent softwares and any casino run by the 32Red Team would operate the casinos to their usual standard.

I get very bored with MG at times and think that the other softwares would offer some new games and excitement.

Imagine a world where we could play at a 32Red run casino but have a choice between the three major softwares.

I, like a lot of players get bored with just one software for any length of time.

This would be a welcome solution to the ever growing trust issues as well!


Cheers
Gremmy

I remember Intertops doing that a while ago.
They ran an RTG and a Microgamingcasino so that they could still serve their US customers when MG pulled out of the USA.

If I remember right, Microgaming did not really like this and now its only RTG, they sold Royal Joker, which is now AllSlots.
And to be honest, I prefer 32RED beeing a Microgaming casino..

 

[Gremmyboy]

Options are always nice to have though....

Sometimes I feel like playing MG slots, other times I feel like RTG and sometimes I feel like Playtech.

Was more curious if they are forbidden by MG from offering different casinos using different software?

I know they have a few casinos but they are all MG powered, Which is what got me wondering whether they were forbidden from using different softwares?

I personally could see myself joining all three 32Reds on all three softwares and playing a little at each one each day.

The way I play slots now is that I will start out on MG(32Red) then get bored after a while and feel like something different so will log in to an RTG(ClubWorld) Then might have a go at playtech(Won't mention the name or I will get chastised....G and P are the initials though!) if I get bored.

If 32Red ran one of each platform then a lot of players(Such as myself) would just switch from the MG or Playtech casino and log on to the RTG variant.
This would therefore keep the money flowing to 32Red(Not that they are short of a quid but Just saying!) as opposed to me logging off of 32Red and spending money at a different casino that is owned by a different group.

My main reason in starting the thread was out of curiosity as to why it hasn't been done. This is not exclusive to 32Red but most casino 'Groups' use the same software exclusively. This got me to wondering if it is a contractual obligation?

Cheers
Gremmy

 

[Nate]

I was thinking the EXACT same thing a day or two ago. Were u reading my mind Gremmy?? It would be superb if 32Red could operate on all fronts. I WOULDN'T play anywhere else

Nate

 

[Christoff]

Normally companies have agreements to only have 1 software provider powering their casino. None of us here know the details on their agreement with Microgaming but its safe to say its probably an exclusive deal.

Playtech are well known for wanting exclusivity so a company like 32Red couldn't run their Microgaming casino with Playtech side by side.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

Hi Guys,

Firstly, thanks to Gremmy for alerting me to this thread via PM.

Unfortunately, we are unable to discuss our commercial agreement with Microgaming publicly, but what I can say is that we feel that Microgaming offer one of the best gaming platforms available and we are very happy with them.

Sorry I couldn't go into more detail, but thank you for your kind words.

Mark

 

[Nifty29]

MG have a new platform called Quickfire.

It can integrate games from several providers into one casino but AFAIK is only browser-based at present. Examples include roulette69.

 

[vinylweatherman]

MG have a new platform called Quickfire.

It can integrate games from several providers into one casino but AFAIK is only browser-based at present. Examples include roulette69.

It is these browser based platforms that seem to be the way some operators are mixing games from different providers.

The Intertops case was down to MGS leaning on them because they had broken an agreement in their contract by DIRECTLY running MGS with RTG. The solution was to separate the two softwares into sister companies. This was done by opening a new MGS casino at "arms length" (Royal Joker) through a subsidiary company, whilst complying with their agreement with MGS and closing the original MGS casino that had been "paired" with the RTG one. Royal Joker was then progressively transferred to Jackpot Factory, and in the end closed and players transferred to All Slots, or All Slots USA.

Part of the agreement with MGS also relates to what can be said about it "on the record", such as posting on a forum. It is not in 32Red's interest to "piss off Microgaming" by saying too much, and having Microgaming leaning on them.

Answers are more likely to come from "insiders" who once worked for a Microgaming casino, but who now work for a competitor.

If Microgaming were to float on the stock exchange, they would need to be more open about such things, as 32Red have to be if you are prepared to wade through the annual report and accounts.

RTG are not known for their openness and transparency either, and are tucked away in Costa Rica.

 

[Gremmyboy]

didn't mean to step on any toes or appear to ask for confidential information.

Was honestly curious why a group of casinos can't offer different platforms for each of their casinos.

Thanks Mark for answering as best you could....It's appreciated!

Cheers
Gremmy

 

[Rhyzz]

didn't mean to step on any toes or appear to ask for confidential information.

Was honestly curious why a group of casinos can't offer different platforms for each of their casinos.

Thanks Mark for answering as best you could....It's appreciated!

Cheers
Gremmy

There are the big sharks who don't like to share and the smaller fish who are happy to have a nibble at everything Entirely depends on commercial contacts!

 

[vinylweatherman]

There are the big sharks who don't like to share and the smaller fish who are happy to have a nibble at everything Entirely depends on commercial contacts!

MGS did seem to give Level 11 special treatment, and operators WERE allowed to pair Level 11 and MGS. This is most likely because MGS were not really sharing anything, as they supplied all the games for Level 11 casinos.

Level 11 seem to have been happy to fall on it's corporate sword, and pull out of the US completely whilst having NO alternative market for their product. The whole thing looks fake, this would NEVER happen in the "real corporate world", as a business seeing one market in decline would attempt to spread into new markets to cover the lost revenue.