I hesitate to say this but... is this rogue?

[labeled]

So, this is harsh.. but if you are able to deposit via Visa but are given NO way to cashout.. is that rogue behavior?

I won't name any names, but one I'm thinking of is accredited and the other is a widely respected group. But this whole QT fiasco has been going on long enough to have at the VERY least pulled the ability to deposit if NO withdrawal method is going to be given.

That is really not cool.

ETA: One is NOT, I repeat, NOT accredited - for some reason I thought they were.

[Glunn11]

I really don't think this is information that should be hidden from public view. People need to know which places are trapping deposits before they get trapped.

[dingdingding]

Taking money without providing a way to pay the players sounds pretty roguish to me...

I'd expect a non-rogue Casino to always try their very best when it comes to paying players their winnings and that should contain stuff like WU too if there's no other option

[labeled]

I really don't think this is information that should be hidden from public view. People need to know which places are trapping deposits before they get trapped.

My hesitation stems from the general reputation of the other group.

But for the time being, all discussions of "rogue or not" aside - the Box24 group and Sloto/Desertnights are accepting Visa as a deposit option with no option for withdrawal. Email queries have confirmed that there is no withdrawal option available.

[MommyMachine]

I would consider that to be very roguish. I don't understand how these places can sleep at night sometimes.

[Marie2473]

What about a check or bank wire? Not possible?

[FreeDomme]

These are extraordinary times. (not unexpected) Those casinos that were prepared will prosper. Those that were well funded will survive. If honest and flexible they may even thrive.
Should Casinomeister, aids and loyal followers throw the entire advocacy system that has served players and decent casinos well for so many years into turmoil over the culmination of a five year (assumed if not expected) meltdown? I think not.

Of course the "smart money" (no offense to those who grew complacent and put seemingly well founded trust in a company that should have been immune to seizures) would not expose itself at the moment.

In no way am I implying that you are, but I sense it simmering in many other posts - Rather than start a rumor of the sky falling or fire in the theater or fox in the hen house it might be time huddle up and support the work that must be going on behind the scenes.

Of course exit strategies may be in place, but it has always been, and especially since 2006, caveat emptor - buyer beware.

I suggest that what may have been rogue in one environment may not be today and would hope that information can be shared (some private some public) that will help informed gamblers make informed decisions. This is no time for the weak of knee or spine, nor the person who feels they must gamble no matter what. It's time for inward focus and outward awareness and to help each other through.

[FreeDomme]

I have a comical solution If the casino has a maximum cashable amount on a coupon that you take with a deposit, insist on a letter of credit equal to that amount be put in escrow contingent upon the terms. lol just trying to lighten things up a bit.

[sparkz]

I know what he means... All Rival casinos do this.

They advertise accepting visa card payments. But what they dont tell you in terms is if you win you wont be able to cashout a thing since they dont pay to cards.

They only pay to E-wallets and they wont pay to an E-wallet unless you have deposited via that method (useless and misleading so players without an E-wallet can see they accept card, deposit but then never be paid cause they dont pay to card so they lose both ways)

Rogue as rogue should be. If they cant pay to a certain method then they should never be accepting deposits via that method... no excuse

[anniemac]

Some are more than willing to pay anyway possible (not Rivals, don't know about them).