Mice Dice Slot - Watch Out!!!

[DogBoy001]

this game is a rip-off. you have to pay for the feature guarantee but if you get the feature yourself the accumulated spins are cancelled which is not right. the rtp takes into account the feature so the paid feature guarantee should be separate and saved even if you get the feature before the guarantee.can dogboy comment on this?

Yes, I shall comment, though in future I will not if a request is prefaced with "this game is a rip-off". If you have a question ask it.

The game is mathematically valid as regards the RTP for the side bet, based on the relative chance of attaining 100 spins without triggering a feature randomly.

The value of the feature subsequently triggered is extremely high, especially as there is roughly a 2 in 3 chance of triggering the feature with 3+ dice for free games, if triggered from Feature Guarantee (and therefore 2 multiplying dice, yielding from 3-18 games at x2-x12 through to 5-30 games at x2-x12).
This is a higher probability than the random trigger of the free games, which will most often be triggered on just 2 dice (so 2-12 games at x1-x6)

As with other events, the probability versus the average value derived versus the bet (in this case, the extra bet), yields the RTP.
Were the game to function simply as an accumulator and not reset on random triggers (ie: a game that would always trigger an additional feature after 100 spins, irrespective of any random triggers), on the extra bet listed, the RTP would far in excess of 100%.

To whit, the game has been designed in accordance with the game RTP and Feature Guarantee system, a mathematically valid system that is not a basic accumulator.

Woooof

[chuchu59]

my apologies for the rip-off comment whilst requesting your input simultaneously.however, the least rtg should do is to have a pop-up message reminding players that there is a compulsory side-bet for the slot.

[SlotMonster]

I don't like this game. IMO taking side bet for every spin just to guarantee the feature which doesn't guarantee any win - well, I don't know how to name this, but I feel it's not right

[Nate]

I don't like this game. IMO taking side bet for every spin just to guarantee the feature which doesn't guarantee any win - well, I don't know how to name this, but I feel it's not right

Its the constant evolution of Slots and programmers trying to make games more and more profitable.

Soon you will see a charge to press "Spin"....

Nate

[SlotMonster]

Its the constant evolution of Slots and programmers trying to make games more and more profitable.

Soon you will see a charge to press "Spin"....

Nate

I will immediately stop playing at this casino!

[vinylweatherman]

Yes, I shall comment, though in future I will not if a request is prefaced with "this game is a rip-off". If you have a question ask it.

The game is mathematically valid as regards the RTP for the side bet, based on the relative chance of attaining 100 spins without triggering a feature randomly.

The value of the feature subsequently triggered is extremely high, especially as there is roughly a 2 in 3 chance of triggering the feature with 3+ dice for free games, if triggered from Feature Guarantee (and therefore 2 multiplying dice, yielding from 3-18 games at x2-x12 through to 5-30 games at x2-x12).
This is a higher probability than the random trigger of the free games, which will most often be triggered on just 2 dice (so 2-12 games at x1-x6)

As with other events, the probability versus the average value derived versus the bet (in this case, the extra bet), yields the RTP.
Were the game to function simply as an accumulator and not reset on random triggers (ie: a game that would always trigger an additional feature after 100 spins, irrespective of any random triggers), on the extra bet listed, the RTP would far in excess of 100%.

To whit, the game has been designed in accordance with the game RTP and Feature Guarantee system, a mathematically valid system that is not a basic accumulator.

Woooof

The problem is that players are already familiar with feature guarantee, and before this game, there was NO "sidebet" cost - it just came as part of the game. Now that players are being charged a specific sidebet, they are concerned about the impression that they are paying for a bet that can simply be cancelled without a "result", nor a refund of stake. There is also the concern that when busting out trying to make WR on a bonus, the spin count is resent to zero, and with the next deposit the player has to start all over again. It caused concern when there was no charge for feature guarantee, but now there IS a charge, the arbitrary cancellation of the progress towards the 100 spins WITHOUT a feature having been randomly triggered DOES lower the mathematical RTP of the sidebet.

High value features are also compromised by the max win limitation on all RTG real series slots, so a VERY good feature round is never paid in full. A recent example was of a win of some 30K being limited to around 12K by this max win rule. It seems odd that wins are capped, yet at the same time casinos market themselves based on having the largest jackpots available.

It may work out mathematically, but if players feel the game is cheating them, they won't play it.

[Nate]

I will immediately stop playing at this casino!

The reality of the scenario is evident in the introduction of the 'Video Slot'. It was more profitable for programmers to introduce a 9 line Video Slot (With Max bet of $45) than a 3 Reel Stepper with a max bet of $3....

Only some Video Slots in B&M Casinos offer the option to change denomination, whilst almost 99% of online Casinos allow a denomination adjustment. It makes more financial sense.

In the ever evolving world of Gaming, side bets will slowly but surely be intoduced into the market.

Look at the Blackjack game and its many variations. In B&M Casinos, a Blackjack 3:2 straight game is ideally the best to play. Intoduction of the (as an example) 'Perfect Pairs' ensured that players were placing side bets and digging into the bank roll faster...

Anyways... I checked out Virgingames last night as they introduced the Batman slot... Its got a side bet too...

Nate

[pokerdan]

The trick with mice dice is that you want to get the feature guarantee. It can give you up to 5 dice for free spins and like 2 dice for up to 12 times multiplier. It is very hard to hit that on the regular game. You need 3 mice in the first three rows in order to have the chance at such a big bonus game. So you really want to get to the feature guarantee. I have lost a lot on that game though, and prob will stay away from it for a while. Getting the bonus game and rolling snake eyes is no fun LOL Another thing i noticed about this game is that the win win feature is horrible because you will be hitting a small amount triggering the bonus game and would be rather impossible to get 100x bet..

[Novemberlady1]

Where are you all playing this at?

I hold accounts with Club World Casinos, Intertops, Inetbet and Jackpot Capital Casinos, and so far the only 2 RTG's I have found it at is Lucky Club and Grande Vegas. Of course I am in the states so I am limited
So if anyone else knows of an accredited RTG that has the game other than the 2 above that I have found it at - LET ME KNOW pretty please
Shan

CLUB WORLD has it now