Why do most casinos require that you wager the deposit and bonus?

[chucho]

If I deposit at Intercasino I have to wager 20x the bonus only. So if someone wanted to deposit more than the match bonus amount, they would not have to wager any more than if they just deposit the exact match amount. This makes sense, but most casinos require that you wager the deposit and the bonus x amount of times. This is incentive to deposit only the match amount. It seems stupid, can anyone tell me why casinos do this? If I deposit more than the match, I am required to play longer just because I decided to deposit more. It is punishment for not being a pure bonus hunter.

The other thing that I could never figure out is why some software's, Playtech and Odds On, do not tell you when the dealer has black jack until the hand is over when the dealer is showing a 10. So I have 6, then 9, then 13 then 16 and I hit a 5 for 21!!!! I am so happy, oops, the dealer had black jack the whole time, why did he not tell me before as it was a waste of my time. Also, thanks a lot for letting me split those two aces only to find that you had black jack the whole time....you basically stole my extra wager as their was no way I could win the hand. I know, play by the book and don't split aces against a 10. It is dumb though, who ever wrote the software had never been to a real casino because that would never happen in a real casino.

[jpm]

There are a hundred (not literally, but alot) different BJ variants around, and some do not check for bj with a dealer 10 showing. Its just a different variation.

As for the wagering question, they are requiring you to play the equivalent of 10x the deposit + bonus, but making it easier for those that want to deposit more than the amount of the match, since they are supposedly unable to remove the bonus from your account once its been credited. Its just a numbers game really. 10x(d+b) = 20x(b) in 100% match cases.

[pokeraddict]

The not checking for BJ varience gives the casino an added advantage. If you were to double or split and the dealer had BJ you would lose more.

In my opinion the BJ game at odds on is especially bad. You can only double on 9, 10 or 11, you cannot double down after a split, you cannot resplit, and the much hated not checking for BJ before you act. Just too many rules in favor of he house that most places do not have.

[HateMG]

The not checking for BJ varience gives the casino an added advantage. If you were to double or split and the dealer had BJ you would lose more.

That's true for European BJ. But if you play Playtech you lose only 1 unit on double or split. So I don't see any point of not checking for BJ in this case.

[pokeraddict]

I know, play by the book and don't split aces against a 10.

What book is this? You always split aces unless its euro (not checking for BJ first) then you do not split them vs an ace.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by pokeraddict

I know, play by the book and don't split aces against a 10.

What book is this? You always split aces unless its euro (not checking for BJ first) then you do not split them vs an ace.

You should always split aces against a 10. If you are playing with European no hole card rule, you should split aces vs ace if you can draw to split aces (Microgaming single deck or European BJ), and hit if you get only one additional card (OddsOn).

[Clayman]

Originally Posted by pokeraddict

In my opinion the BJ game at odds on is especially bad. You can only double on 9, 10 or 11, you cannot double down after a split, you cannot resplit, and the much hated not checking for BJ before you act.

Yes, an absolutely wretched game with a HA of 0.73%.

Yet still better than IGW (Good as Gold) (4D,D10,H17,NO DAS, OBO) with a HA of 0.90%.

But, of course, neither is as bad as 6-5 single-deck in Vegas.

[fatshaft]

Originally Posted by chucho

I know, play by the book and don't split aces against a 10. It is dumb though, who ever wrote the software had never been to a real casino because that would never happen in a real casino.

1.As you are now aware, always split aces.

2. If you had been to a real casino in EUROPE, you will find the peak rule is an American version of BJ, so it would indeed happen in a real casino

[chucho]

As for the wagering question, they are requiring you to play the equivalent of 10x the deposit + bonus, but making it easier for those that want to deposit more than the amount of the match, since they are supposedly unable to remove the bonus from your account once its been credited. Its just a numbers game really. 10x(d+b) = 20x(b) in 100% match cases.[/QUOTE]

I am not sure what you mean, it does not make any sense your statement? I think you are agreeing with me that it is dump to require players to play the deposit and the bonus and not just the bonus?

[chucho]

Originally Posted by HateMG

That's true for European BJ. But if you play Playtech you lose only 1 unit on double or split. So I don't see any point of not checking for BJ in this case.

Pershps I am wrong and you do not lose the extra bet with playtech if you double or split or find that the dealer has BJ. I know that you can double or split against a 10 with RTG. I see the the Wizzards playtech charts says to double against a 10 so I must have been wrong about that one and it is obvious what to do with MG viper as they check the hole card. But what about old MG and odds on?

Also, does anyone know when playing at Planet Luck, I global, do you ever use the surrender option and do they steal you extra bet if you double and the dealer shows BJ?