Hey 3Dice, how random is this?

[pokerdan]

I also know how you feel. i can't count number of times i have got two of the bonus round symbols on the first 2 paylines on the TUT slot and never hit a third after hitting the first 2. I have gotten the bonus game quite a few times, but whenever they pop up on the first 2 reels i know I am not getting the bonus game. I had a horrible night last night. Played at MG, 3dice and also RTG,, blew 330 bucks and not one bonus game on any of the sites at all. Sometimes you can just feel your not gonna be lucky when your playing and it's time to take a break. There is no way you can honestly be a consistent winner playing slots, but if your not having fun i think it's harder to win. It's strange but i think when I am winning I feel way different than when I have losing sessions. Not just after i have lost, but when i first start a session. Sometimes I feel like I am not gonna have any luck and sure enough I lose 100%.

[3mptyseat]

Hi Petro,

I often play at 3Dice. I have not personally noticed more wild symbols appearing on reels 4 and 5 (you said 3 and 4, I think you meant to say 4 and 5), in any of the non-classic slot games there, albeit I don't write down the results of each spin.

I believe you would need to find an average based on many thousands of spins and not just several hundred.

Good luck!

Kim aka Wings

Really Wings? What games do u play? And ur right, the OP's sample is too small for analysis. I guess it depends on which games you frequent, bc I def. notice some patterns in some games...

In the Squirrel/Crystal-Meth/Swiss Army Knife/Yodeler game, there definitely seems to be more wilds in reels 4 and 5. My feelings suggest the same 'weighting' on wilds in reels 4 and 5 for the game Payola... These games seem to include the 'scatter' symbol appearing more often in the early reels than in the late ones...

But in games like the one Dino/Rocks/Petrified Wood/Butterflys it doesnt seem to me that there is more wilds in any particular reel.
I also 'sense' that wilds are not more common in the last two reels on Moolah than in the first 2...

But again, I have no 'reel strips' and ledger stats to base this on...So this is based upon my recollections...Mos Def. interesting thread though...Well Done!

Are there any verified reel strips for 3dice?

[Kimsterfl]

My two personal favorites are Tut and Indy.

[3Dice]

First column: 58 times
Second column: 42 times
Third column: 117 times
Fourth column: 222 times
Fifth column: 177 times

Hi MotorCity68,

Videoslot games are never designed with 5 of the same reels. Quite often, not even the number of symbols on each reel will be the same. Designing the reel layout, reel length and how many of each symbol go on each reel is a fundamental tool in slot design - and imperative to making a game fun, exciting and fair.

For medieval moolah, the first and second reel both contain 1 wild, the third reel contains 2, the fourth reel has 4 wilds and the 5th reel has 3 wilds.

Many wilds on the 4th and 5th reel mean nothing more or less than the designer chosing for a scenario where wilds complete paylines more often than start them. This technique gives the wilds more of a 'boost' feeling as opposed to a 'always something' feeling. A mindset that is reinforced by the cumulative multiplying effect of the wilds in moolah.

The net result of this design choice is that in medieval moolah, winning combinations with wilds occur less often, but represent bigger payouts. (many of the winning combinations with wilds will be 4 or 5 symbols long - since most of the wilds are on reels 4 and 5)

If the designer had wished to design a lower variance game, he could have put more wilds on reels 1 and 2, and less on 4 and 5 .. although most likely he would have had to drop the cumulative multiplier in that scenario to keep the total RTP around 95%. With more wilds on reel 1 and 2, you would see more win combinations with wilds, but they would also most often only be 3 symbols long, and on average pay a lot less.

The combination paytable / division on the reels is what creates the feel of a wild symbol for a slot game. For moolah, we tried to design an explosive and powerfull wild - in fact - that game is all about the wilds and in total the combinations with wilds pay more than the bonus round does (which is uncommon in a slot - and the reason some people really like moolah )

I'll be looking forward to that gift basket

Cheers,

Enzo

[weedebs]

I am sorry but this has nothing to do with the above - but i didnt know how to get this in somewhere, enzo can you please contact me urgently

[MotorCity68]

Makes perfect sense to me now. I guess all I can say in my defense is that I had never noticed the discrepancy before, it felt as though something had changed.

Sorry Enzo, for the accusatory tone of my post.

[LHofsdal]

Makes perfect sense to me now. I guess all I can say in my defense is that I had never noticed the discrepancy before, it felt as though something had changed.

Sorry Enzo, for the accusatory tone of my post.

Not many posters would have said they were sorry, it is nice to see that someone can admit their mistake.

Thanks Enzo for coming in and clarifing things.

All the best,
LH

[jod5413]

Really Wings? What games do u play? And ur right, the OP's sample is too small for analysis. I guess it depends on which games you frequent, bc I def. notice some patterns in some games...

In the Squirrel/Crystal-Meth/Swiss Army Knife/Yodeler game, there definitely seems to be more wilds in reels 4 and 5. My feelings suggest the same 'weighting' on wilds in reels 4 and 5 for the game Payola... These games seem to include the 'scatter' symbol appearing more often in the early reels than in the late ones...

But in games like the one Dino/Rocks/Petrified Wood/Butterflys it doesnt seem to me that there is more wilds in any particular reel.
I also 'sense' that wilds are not more common in the last two reels on Moolah than in the first 2...

But again, I have no 'reel strips' and ledger stats to base this on...So this is based upon my recollections...Mos Def. interesting thread though...Well Done!

Are there any verified reel strips for 3dice?

I never thought of that slot that way, but you are pretty much spot on!!

Not many posters would have said they were sorry, it is nice to see that someone can admit their mistake.

I do not agree. Just here alone the majority of members would say sorry. We are a staunch bunch.

Thanks Enzo for coming in and clarifing things.

All the best,
LH