Just bad luck? I'm starting to think NOT!!

[lovetogamble]

Would you like spend 11.5 K in exchange to win 2 RJs total 4K+?

I think your the only RJ's won at inetbet last month. You won on Return of Rudolph didn't you? Yes, I agree it's sad to have to wager 11.5 grand to win 4,000. More like a 7,000 loss than a win.

It's your imagination...just a run of bad luck...because many know that YEARS of experiences and THOUSANDS upon thousands of spins do not count for proof of any changes ...

Sorry..but that's more than enough proof for me.

I have had several months of bad luck, so 14 months is not so unusual.

Sorry again, but if I have to go 14 months (over a year) and no cash outs I would certainly quite playing online.

I lost $300 the last two days playing small bets of .40 and .50. Never got above my beginning balance, played the triple stretch your dollar deal at inetbet. Deposited $100 for $150, another 50 for 75% bonus and another 50 for the 100% bonus. Money went like water down a drain. The other $50 went just as fast at another casino. All my deposits have went that way for months now. So I took $100 to the local Indian Casino and left $2,700 ahead last night. Yes, that was lucky but since Christmas I've lost 1 time at their casino and I go ever other day.

So call it bad online luck or whatever you wish I'm convinced that the online casinos are paying out around 85% these days. Yes, you'll see some winners but are they really winners? Look at Plasticnote who won 2 RJ's...but lost $7,000 in the process. Is he a winner...I think not.

[plasticnote]

I think your the only RJ's won at inetbet last month. You won on Return of Rudolph didn't you? Yes, I agree it's sad to have to wager 11.5 grand to win 4,000. More like a 7,000 loss than a win.



Sorry..but that's more than enough proof for me.



Sorry again, but if I have to go 14 months (over a year) and no cash outs I would certainly quite playing online.

I lost $300 the last two days playing small bets of .40 and .50. Never got above my beginning balance, played the triple stretch your dollar deal at inetbet. Deposited $100 for $150, another 50 for 75% bonus and another 50 for the 100% bonus. Money went like water down a drain. The other $50 went just as fast at another casino. All my deposits have went that way for months now. So I took $100 to the local Indian Casino and left $2,700 ahead last night. Yes, that was lucky but since Christmas I've lost 1 time at their casino and I go ever other day.

So call it bad online luck or whatever you wish I'm convinced that the online casinos are paying out around 85% these days. Yes, you'll see some winners but are they really winners? Look at Plasticnote who won 2 RJ's...but lost $7,000 in the process. Is he a winner...I think not.

Also a min RJ for $750.

I will stop playing RTG all together if the payout keep lower in my next 10 deposits (3000$).

[gaydave]

I am only disclosing this for information. I am not trying to be Devil's advocate or anything like that but I have been running extremely hot on RTG RSV slots. At this point I am several thousand ahead over the last 2 months at RTG casinos.
I'm not discrediting what any of you are saying but I thought you would like to know that not everyone is losing on RTG at this time.

[plasticnote]

I am only disclosing this for information. I am not trying to be Devil's advocate or anything like that but I have been running extremely hot on RTG RSV slots. At this point I am several thousand ahead over the last 2 months at RTG casinos.
I'm not discrediting what any of you are saying but I thought you would like to know that not everyone is losing on RTG at this time.

Hi, not saying you can not win but had a feeling RTG RSV are more and more like UK style EWP slots if you know what I mean. Once you reach a certain level of wins, then all sudden every slots turned cold no matter what you do for very long period of time. Then where is my fun? Just my 2 cents, maybe I played too heavy.

There has not been any post of great wins like old days from RTG. Like metaxa 's 100$ spin at rain dance(5 scatters) - INETBET Or Nash 125$ spin at T-Rex - Intertop Red.

I miss those posts so much. Make me wonder are those still possible on RTGs.

[slotjunkie]

14 months...

They have pulled the plug...PERIOD!!!!!!! You will NOT win again until you are in the negative with them!

Oh it IS very UNUSUAL, just not for shady sh*t they pull with online gambling!!!

Has anyone ever been on a 14 month "bad luck" streak at a land based casino???

No, No, h*ll no!!!!

[Papa-ya]

Only if you know how much I spent to hit 2 RJs last month at INET and afterwards, how bad my game played. You will feel lucky you did not get them.

Would you like spend 11.5 K in exchange to win 2 RJs total 4K+?

Like Dogboy001 pointed out in another thread, there has always been complaints and probably always will be.
What I think is some players are way to serious about hitting the big wins and have lost the point of just have fun with it. As your post shows you have lost a good chunk of your own money, but for what reason is behind your large deposits?
Are you chasing randoms, or are you thinking the more you spend the more you'll get out of it?
As it has been said before, it's gambling, are you seriously willing to gamble so much?
The more a player losses of his/her own money, the higher the frustration level. The more you play in a frustrated frame of mind, the more the play can appear frustrating.
Especially if you are trying to get back what you have lost or are trying for a random.
There are many players that have hit randoms on minimal wagers, just as there are that hit them on large wagers, so if you are going to hit them, isn't it better to hit one on minimal amounts of your own money?
If you have spent 11.5k of your own money and won 2 randoms for 4k, then you have gained nothing but more frustration. Because a random will not reward any player for the amount they have spent. It is pure luck/chance for any player that actually hits one.
Players need to get back to the entertainment aspect of gambling, only spend what you are willing to lose and never expect to win because you have spent an enormous amount to get there.
I have had plenty of "bad luck", but continue to play at minimal amounts and am happy with minimal wins, they do add up to big wins when cashed out and put away.
I used to be a chaser as well, but gave that up, if it happens, great, if not, that's okay too as I don't anticipate it anymore.
Having won the mini for me was a total shock and a nice surprise, after playing as long as there has been gambling online, to hit one was just by chance as it is with anyone that wins a random.
When I hit the mini random, instead of upping my wagers, hoping for bigger wins, I stayed in the range of 25-60 cent wagers, played the entire day and still cashed out $390, all this on a $30 deposit. Doesn't always happen this way, but it's nice when it does, so just enjoy it.
My philosphy is, play only what you are willing to lose.
Don't use bonuses to tie up your money, unless you just want to play for fun.
Never chase randoms or losses, it can lead to more frustration and more losses.
Just play to have some fun, if it's not fun, find something that is.

[lovetogamble]

Just play to have some fun, if it's not fun, find something that is.

I don't play thinking I'm gonna win big, I mainly play for fun but the fun is just about gone out of it! When you've played online for 11 years you can feel the change in the games and they don't play nothing like they used too. Believe me their nothing close to playing as they used too even a couple of years ago. I don't mine losing I rather expect to lose but when $100 deposits are gone in a few minutes betting only .40 and .50 a spin...free spins pay out about $5.00 then the fun is gone. Just my opinion. I never said people don't win, sure they do. Someone has to win or no one would play but the winners are less and less which makes me believe the payout are less. I still think around 85%.

On a lighter note just to compare gambling online and B&M casinos. I went to the Indian casino this morning. I took $200 and came home with $260. No big win but I played from 8 till noon. Now that was what I call fun. That's 4 hours playing time which may have lasted an hour online. Again just my opinion and everyone has one.

[silcnlayc]

Papa-ya:Just play to have some fun, if it's not fun, find something that is.

That is what many of us that gamble for a win (large or small) have done, moved on. This is hurting the casinos bottom line IMO...and as players stop playing, this will make it harder on those that continue to play "for entertainment" to be entertained IMO...When it gets down to the nitty gritty...let us know how much "entertainment" you have gotten out of your deposits. It should be interesting...because as many others say, I can go out and be entertained a helluva lot better for my $50 bucks..$100 bucks or whatever one deposits for longer than 5 minutes..

Think about it..who makes $30 bucks every few minutes?? Really? If one breaks down the amount of money these casinos have sucked in and are now refusing to let loose...they (the casinos) have definitley lined their pockets for a long time...and are tryying to continue to do this without any give back...well..I think the well is running dry real quick...

I will sit back and wait to see all those others that play "just for entertainment" purposes come on here and tell us just how much fun they are still having in all honesty...or if they are even depositing as they used to..I believe, they are not having much luck either, even if they claim they are still playing for this purpose..they too, JMO , have cut back because of not finding it so much fun anymore either..even if it was for "entertainment" I think this is where the casinos are failing ...it is not "entertaining" to continue to spin hundreds of dollars only to catch a $3 win on the COVETED bonus rounds..and not just a few are doing this anymore, all the casinos are doing it..why??

Why even bother to have a bonus round if all one gets is $0 ??? That is NOT entertainment...that is sickening..JMO It is not a fluke,those $0 bonus rounds, it has become the norm anymore to get nothing for huge investment...A casinos sense of humor? Hmmm...time will tell who will laugh last..

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[slotjunkie]

Just look at how short and dry the winner screenshot section is compared to how it used to be
And the "5 scatters" and "shoe me the money" threads are practically dead!

Of course they are still coming in, but....

And you can not tell me it is just that players have(all) changed the way they play

[Papa-ya]

I can relate to what you are all saying, I have had the same experiences all along as well, that's why now I play for the fun of it, rather than the profit. If I win, I'm happy, if I lose, I'm not. But when you read around all the forums and so many players are constantly giving online gambling a negative rap, which may or may not be deserved, can we not expect our constant comments to also effect the game?
Sure, I feel things have changed, just as much as the next guy, but I also don't feel it's all about the casinos only causing the change. How many new players may shy away and stick with a B&M because of all the negativity surrounding the online gambling they read.
I have been following discussions for a long time and honestly I never knew how bad it was until I started reading comments.
If I were new to gambling, I would be running as far away from online gambling as possible, from what I have been studying. Old timers, frustrated because it's different, so deposits slow down, or stop, new players don't sign up and next thing you know, gambling has become something only the insane would venture into and all entities struggle to stay in business.
So, forums are for helping players avoid the pitfalls, but if we are making the entire gambling world look like a pitfall, then we are more of a detriment than a benefit to better gaming.
Not being critical, just looking at it from a different point of view.
Bottom line we have to ask, is if the ever growing negativity is also hurting the online gambling and are we shooting ourselves in the foot and not realizing it?