RTG software backend issues - RTP etc.

[brianzz]

Deposits tonight totaling $334.21 X 210% bonus = $1036.84 (x25 wagering = $25,921)

I don't hardly ever expect to win, especially with a mountain of wagering to meet but good god.. I barely earned 400 comp points ($4,000 in action) out of that.. not even 1/4 of the wagering requirements... practically no play time. I could understand if I was betting $10 and $20 a push but shit.. all the bets were between $1 and $2.50... nothing.. nada.. ziltch.

I honestly don't mind losing money at an online casino, I don't care but I will not be robbed by these jokers and their adjustable RTP's anymore. This just about seals it for me an gambling online.. I'd rather drive the 2 hours to the indian joint across the mountain, at least you get fed and watered there.

Is RTG packing it up and jamming it to the players because they know the feds are about to come down on them? Hell they won't pay anyone, may as well suck up all the money you can in the last few days of your business.

[ergopro]

Deposits tonight totaling $334.21 X 210% bonus = $1036.84 (x25 wagering = $25,921)

I don't hardly ever expect to win, especially with a mountain of wagering to meet but good god.. I barely earned 400 comp points ($4,000 in action) out of that.. not even 1/4 of the wagering requirements... practically no play time. I could understand if I was betting $10 and $20 a push but shit.. all the bets were between $1 and $2.50... nothing.. nada.. ziltch.

I honestly don't mind losing money at an online casino, I don't care but I will not be robbed by these jokers and their adjustable RTP's anymore. This just about seals it for me an gambling online.. I'd rather drive the 2 hours to the indian joint across the mountain, at least you get fed and watered there.

Is RTG packing it up and jamming it to the players because they know the feds are about to come down on them? Hell they won't pay anyone, may as well suck up all the money you can in the last few days of your business.

Was thinking the same thing yesterday when managed to lose big at one Microgaming casino. Then I thought a bit more and realized that I was thinking the same thing about Playtech a few months back. And about Rival a few months before that. In the end, at certain times felt that every frickin software was rigged Final conclusion was that I deposited too much...and still do. But yeah, over 100 deposits at Lucky Red and just a few (2 or 3, not sure) smallish cashouts, feel your pain...done with RTG. Too streaky for me.

[UriahHeep]

my feeling is that ALL the RTG casinos have reduced a lot their general payout in the last two months or so.

However, IMHO the group TITAN / WIN PALACE is the worst ever.
I did several deposits on both (with and without redeeming bonus) and I faced always the same situation: ridicolous payout and money vanishing in a few minutes.

I took decision to quit with RTGs, I am keeping on with JC only, cos so far this casino has been the most... "honest" as payout, and when I win something there, they pay me on Neteller in a very quick way.

[takethemoney]

When are people going to wise up and realize that RTG casinos are running a funky game? The writing has been coming at us for awhile now and it just keeps getting worse. Wake up and smell the toast burning, people! If we insist on playing these we must realize that when you press the deposit button, the loss has already occurred. Anything more is an anomaly, defying all normal expectations. You are feeding desperate people who cannot afford to feed YOU! The only one's supporting their last breaths are the people stupid enough to keep depositing. Stick a fork in them, they are done.

[ilovejesus]

Deposits tonight totaling $334.21 X 210% bonus = $1036.84 (x25 wagering = $25,921)

I don't hardly ever expect to win, especially with a mountain of wagering to meet but good god.. I barely earned 400 comp points ($4,000 in action) out of that.. not even 1/4 of the wagering requirements... practically no play time. I could understand if I was betting $10 and $20 a push but shit.. all the bets were between $1 and $2.50... nothing.. nada.. ziltch.

I honestly don't mind losing money at an online casino, I don't care but I will not be robbed by these jokers and their adjustable RTP's anymore. This just about seals it for me an gambling online.. I'd rather drive the 2 hours to the indian joint across the mountain, at least you get fed and watered there.

Is RTG packing it up and jamming it to the players because they know the feds are about to come down on them? Hell they won't pay anyone, may as well suck up all the money you can in the last few days of your business.

rtg r rip of sheep in wolfes clothig i lost £1570 in 3 rtg casino bad new year start

[Nifty29]

When are people going to wise up and realize that RTG casinos are running a funky game? The writing has been coming at us for awhile now and it just keeps getting worse. Wake up and smell the toast burning, people! If we insist on playing these we must realize that when you press the deposit button, the loss has already occurred. Anything more is an anomaly, defying all normal expectations. You are feeding desperate people who cannot afford to feed YOU! The only one's supporting their last breaths are the people stupid enough to keep depositing. Stick a fork in them, they are done.

How do you explain the fact that I have done better at RTG last year than anywhere else?

There are still reputable RTG casinos around, so your sweeping statements do not hold water.

I also don't think it is good form to insult those of us who choose to play there by calling us 'stupid'.

[plasticnote]

RTG slots comparing 2006 2007, a lot worse, I do agree. I used to play normally at 5$ - 20$ a spin, and now I was forced to bet 2$ or less.
I just make an example, Derby Dollar this game, if you play a lot, you will notice that free games are very very hard to get however, this is suppose to be a low variant game and free spin should be easy to get.

I want to point out not only RTG but also other platforms. All seem like worse.
This christmas and new year, total 10 days I lost about 12K WITHOUT single good hits(>1000$ at 5-10$) no matter RTG, MG or playtech.

For me, only 1 rtg (INETBET), I still can get a good win once in 3 or 4 weeks. Other RTG, like JC CWC, no matter how you play which game you play, you just can not get a good win.

SO, what can we do? nothing. if you want to play RTG and have a chance to win. Go low rolling and play at INETBET which RTP still bearable

The fact is the RTG, this software changed so much, I used to play in some RTGs, their game are set in very low RTP(90% or lower), but the bonus provided can somwhow still give you a good win once a while. However, now the rtg software just simply eliminates wins, by either after so many spins no bonus round or you get many bonus rounds in few spins but
just no wins. I do not know how RTG managed to do this and still past the techlib test nor I have proof that. That are all my feelings. If you play RTG long enough, I guess you will have similar feelings.

I used to enjoy playing RTG, however, many changes after, RTG breaks a gambler 's heart. I wonder, could we get RTG back to normal? Hopes are slim.

[silcnlayc]

Nifty29: How do you explain the fact that I have done better at RTG last year than anywhere else?

Nifty29, you keep saying this. It is just your word..where is some kind of proof on withdrawals or something like many of us others have posted where our losses were numerous and deposits back to back...I know I posted a screenshot of all the deposits back to back and showed some of mine when all I did was lose at every casno as many others have. KK is a classic example. He keeps great records and also shares them to show where he stands.

Just SAYING your ahead means nothing in my book because you have repeated this over and over again...and I cannot believe that you really are being totally on the up and up about that. Why? Even KK has had some real downers...and so does VMW...it seems you are the only one that is always having a "good year".

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[funeral979]

I did better at RTG in 2010 than any other software platform as well. Unfortunately it was the only winning year I have had at RTG since I started gambling online (2003).

I also had a winning year at BetOnSoft, which will probably become my platform of choice this year.

[vinylweatherman]

Remember, a couple of RTG casinos GOT CAUGHT changing the RTP on the slot "Fruit Frenzy", because the change introduced the "two pear" anomaly on reel 2. This incident did quite a bit of damage, as it was the first time we had PROOF that some RTG casinos had been changing the RTP setting on EXISTING games. We don't know what setting this was, but if they got caught ONCE, they have probably been doing the same on the other slots, and NOT been caught because the alternate reelstrips did not have such an obvious anomaly in them. The "two pear" anomaly was spotted so fast because this was visible on the default reel position when the game was loaded, so could be seen every time the game was freshly loaded.