Microgaming i hope the end is near

[Mirvel]

Hi all,
after i complained against microgaming 1-2 weeks ago....
the weirdest things happen...

i played on thunderstruck 2 for 6 HOURS on 2.10 bet!!
3 times the free spins with an avarage win of 10-15 times my bet.....
NOT once did i had the WILDSTORM feature.....(lost 800-900$)
As soon as i lowered my bet (i was almost broke) to 60ct
First spin WILDSTORM WITH 60 times my bet
Second spin FREE spins 60 times my bet.....
fourth spin free spins 60 times my bet......
I raise my bet again to 2.10 and was broke in 10 min....
few days later.......... other casino.....
exactly the same story?????? again i lost close to 800$ had 2 times the free spins with 5-10 times my bet and not one time the WILDSTORM FEATURE

TALLY HO SLOT...... im playing on a 1.80 bet for 2 hours
NOT once the free spins got 1 nice win and thats it.
played somewhere between 700 and 1000 spins stil no free spins. lost 700$

Break da bank.........1137 spins no free spins.
second try on break da bank........ 300 spins yes free spins and i got 2.2 times
my bet....................1400+ spins to get 1 time the free spins???????
3th attempt on break da bank.......
after well over 950spins i got the free spins and won 2.2 times my bet......
2500 spins and i got 2 times the free spins and a total of 4.4 times my bet!!!!
and not once a big win.......lost 700-800$

ISIS, beach babes, thunderstruck 1...... on avarage i get the free spins once for every 400-500 spins played
and 20 times my bet as win.lost 600$


20 min ago i stopped playing the new game Royal feast i believe...
700 spins... not once the free spins........

Santa's wild ride...... got 1 time the free spins with an amazing 6 times my bet

thats all i had with 4000$ deposit past week

THATS NOT NORMALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am a MC player for 3-4 years now and this NEVER happend before .... not even close to that..... everything got much worse after i complained against microgaming and i started talking and post here in the forum.......

now i noticed more and more players complaining about MC some say
we should work together as players if we want to make a difference.
Why dont we? why dont we gather as much as we can over MC and make a point?
i can prove they lie............
I can prove they alter the games during play........
If i check my deposit history i get numbers much lower than what my VISA card and my neteller acount tell me.....
if i check my withdrawal history i get numbers much bigger than my neteller acount tells me....it apears canceld withdrawals are not removed from the system??

anyway i know i am not the only1 with issues like this....
If we want to make a difference we should stand together!
i wil do w/e i need to do.
but i can't do it alone.

[jod5413]

All I would say is you have very bad luck! I know someone else here will join your thread to commiserate, but I have a question for you and any others that give out their stats showing hundreds of spins, all losers.

Why would anyone stay on a slot that is cold as you know what? When I play, if I am not even getting little boosts here and there, I am gone to find another slot that might like me better. I have never, ever stayed on a cold slot til I bust out. Part of the fun of gambling is that you are trying to beat the casino. To play hundreds of spins that are taking your money over and over, why do you not go somewhere else?

I am not trying to be an a$$, though I do that quite well sometimes. I am honestly very curious.

[vinylweatherman]

All I would say is you have very bad luck! I know someone else here will join your thread to commiserate, but I have a question for you and any others that give out their stats showing hundreds of spins, all losers.

Why would anyone stay on a slot that is cold as you know what? When I play, if I am not even getting little boosts here and there, I am gone to find another slot that might like me better. I have never, ever stayed on a cold slot til I bust out. Part of the fun of gambling is that you are trying to beat the casino. To play hundreds of spins that are taking your money over and over, why do you not go somewhere else?

I am not trying to be an a$$, though I do that quite well sometimes. I am honestly very curious.

Why would this have ANY relevance whatsoever if the game were indeed RANDOM

Moving from slot to slot, or from casino to casino, seems to make one "luckier", but it shouldn't

[jod5413]

Vinyl, I am not talking about random, or even luck. I am talking about boredom! Theoretically any spin can be a winner, but after spinning tons of times and still not having a winner pop up, wouldn't you go and try a different slot?

[silcnlayc]

jod5413 Vinyl, I am not talking about random, or even luck. I am talking about boredom! Theoretically any spin can be a winner, but after spinning tons of times and still not having a winner pop up, wouldn't you go and try a different slot?

What do you do when they all turn out to be the same dead spins even when you keep trying different ones???

.

[Mirvel]

Vinyl, I am not talking about random, or even luck. I am talking about boredom! Theoretically any spin can be a winner, but after spinning tons of times and still not having a winner pop up, wouldn't you go and try a different slot?

thats the problem..........................
on thunderstruck 2 i got 2 scatters every 5-10-20 spins???
and besides that how would i last 6 hours on a 2.10 bet
if i did not get some win?
if they really dont give me a thing at all i try other games...also on other groups/casino's...
we know more about slots/videoslots/poker/roulette/blackjack/minigames or w/e than you can think of.
The programmers here create similar games
So dont think we did not try w/e you can think of and more...

what really makes me mad is before i started to deposit 100's and more at MC i asked in 2-3 diff live chats how the games work.
because in our eyes it apears as if they are all connected....
and they all said NO!! Only the games that use the mega moolah jackpot are.
and now they just admitted that they are connected.... and it can indeed happen that you play a game that apears to be "hot" all of a sudden wont give a thing anymore because another player won big..
QUOTE from live chat: it apears another player at this casino or another casino had a really big win on the game you play.
But i am not playing a mega moolah game?
NOW what the **** does that mean?
now we understand whats going on at MC....
that also explains why the reels wil stop at those times in a different order than they usualy do or why you get disconected and you get asigned to another session....what you dont know as player but you can see in their software data
They cant have to many winners (and there are winners at MC that is true) but it apears that they decide WHO wins..... and it is based on DECEPTION and it is MISLEADING because i already lost my money because of what they showed me while i was playing.
and they told me the games/players are NOT all connected and im not playing against other players. BIG FAT LIE.
this also means i am fighting against the luck of other players at
MICROGAMING....DECEPTION......MISLEADING......PULL ING MY LEG
AND MANY OTHERS........ software
Good luck with it.

[trade]

Why would anyone stay on a slot that is cold as you know what? When I play, if I am not even getting little boosts here and there, I am gone to find another slot that might like me better. I have never, ever stayed on a cold slot til I bust out. Part of the fun of gambling is that you are trying to beat the casino. To play hundreds of spins that are taking your money over and over, why do you not go somewhere else?

I am not trying to be an a$$, though I do that quite well sometimes. I am honestly very curious.

I totally agree with moving off of dead slots. I don't know how the software is built re. players habit to stick on one slot determined to hit the mother load sooner than later (and often busting out), but time after time has taught me not to stay on a dead slot. Revisit it maybe after several other games (or another day), including poker, but it certainly feels like the software recognizes human tendency to try and recover losses on a slot that sucked up a lot of our $$. Nothing but personal experience to back this up with. If I don't get a hit on a slot after about 8 or so spins, I move on. Sometimes you get a good hit on the first spin and nothing afterwards as well, which is a different kind of "slot / gambler psychology" thinking you may have hit a "hot" one.

Is it possible that the software is built with known gambler's tendencies built in, including upping one's bet even after multiple losses have occurred... i.e. "it must be time!!" ?

Vinyl Weatherman, haven't you said before that you believe that the games seem to have "memory"? (I sure feels that way on BDBA!) The debate of "random" will never cease I am sure... how the software developers write a random software with a "memory" is what I would love to know i.e. if there is some sort of possibility to do this. I mostly play at MG and I am happy with them overall... well that is a very select few of them. I have mostly better luck without a bonus, but I am not as patient as Kasino King!

[Mirvel]

RANDOM is explained really easy.
Computer based RANDOM uses TIME/DATE as a variable.
Why time? because time is NEVER the same. therefor the sum is always diff while the awnser can be anything....
memory?
time as a variable tells u not only what time(awnser) it wil be over 1 sec or 40 sec or w/e
it also shows what time(answer) it was 1 sec or 240000000 sec ago.
it might apear that the system is learning and in a way it does but not as you would think.
it already knows what u did and when u did it (all you could do was press a button while the system already knew the answer and ur previous choices and if the game balance alows a big or small or no win)
TIME/DATE is everything......
DONT believe in what you see.........
I bet ur withdrawals vs deposits wil tell the true story in the end.............
MICROGAMING = DECEPTION and MISLEADING. and stil one of the best on the net.... amazing.............

[everyday]

My gut feeling is that the casinos and MGS see the writing on the wall. After 5 years of playing primarily at MG casinos and having seen the good and the bad, it has finally turned ugly, especially in the last year. With the new year approaching, I believe quite a few players are going to pack it in with online casinos and I will be one of them.

As a VIP at two major accredited groups, I have seen play time and payouts decrease continously. But the best was yesterday after having tried out the new games in "real" at 2 separate casinos, and not getting a bonus round in either, I switched to "fun" as I was really curious to see the bonus round in Wild Santas Ride. Well, playing $3 a spin and 450 spins later, the bonus round arrived and returned a paltry $50 for the experience. So even "fun mode" has gone tight You have to laugh when even "fun" becomes a drag.

[Slotster!]

Why would this have ANY relevance whatsoever if the game were indeed RANDOM

I read a great quote from Steve Jobs once explaining how they had to make the 'shuffle' feature on their ipod less than random; when it was truly random - people were complaining that sometimes the same or similar songs came up straight after each other. As a consequence, they 'de-randomised' it to make the human brain understand it better.

Random slots with a pre-determined RTP make a lot of money for online and land based casinos all over the world -- there's no sense in making them any other way.