So, 3Dice doesn't block France...?

[jstrike]

I happen to be in France right now, snowed in for awhile in a remote village with a broadband connection and a mac laptop. Now, I don't have the 3Dice software on mac so I can't tell for sure, but it looks like they don't block France. That's kinda weird. Bodog does, clubworld does...I think most do that haven't signed that lousy contract with the French government. It's an incredibly lousy deal, by the way. Tax on every poker hand, before the flop, it's just huge.

I know 3Dice has this interesting "it's on you" kinda policy about legality... I'm curious, Enzo, what are the inner workings of that? Doesn't the NA Dutch government recognize France's new licensing? Are you worried that Sarkozy's gonna import you one of these days?

[blacklabrador]

3dice is doing those countries a HUGE favor that they block.

[Jasminebed]

AFAIK, Belgium is the only country 3Dice blocks (Most casinos do not offer services to the country they operate out of, UK being an exception).

Legality of play in your jurisdiction is up to the player.

[NASHVEGAS]

AFAIK, Belgium is the only country 3Dice blocks (Most casinos do not offer services to the country they operate out of, UK being an exception).

Legality of play in your jurisdiction is up to the player.

Could you please provide a link to a/any legal source(s) from any country that confirms your bolded statement of such legality and/or law above?

[Jasminebed]

Could you please provide a link to a/any legal source(s) from any country that confirms your bolded statement of such legality and/or law above?

No. Perhaps another player could help with that. With hundreds of different countries and constantly changing regulations, most casino Terms and Conditions have similar statements regarding it being up to the player to determine the laws for their jurisdictions.

It is the Player’s sole responsibility to ensure compliance with local and national laws.

Laws vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. We cannot be responsible for the laws in your location. Please contact your local authorities for up to date information on the legality of Internet gaming in your jurisdiction.

You are solely responsible for checking the laws regarding the use of internet gaming in the jurisdiction in which you are located to ensure that your registration with xxx is legal.

i.Internet Gambling may be illegal in the jurisdiction / country in which you are located or residing. The Player retains sole responsibility for any gaming activity to ensure no law or legislature prohibiting gaming online is contravened.

Casinos licensed in Costa Rica prohibit Costa Ricans, Rival blocks Canadians. Lasseters used to not offer their service to Austrailians. Perhaps my first statement was too sweeping.

Please refer to the laws where you live, regardless of whether a particular casino offers services to you, to decide if you are participating in a legal adult activity, or perhaps contravening local law. I'm not offering any legal advice to any member or casino, I'm not qualified to do so. If you require legal advice, please consult a lawyer.

[jstrike]

No, Jasmine's generally right on here. 3Dice is licensed in NA/Curacao and I'm pretty sure that licensing board doesn't allow the free zone based casinos to take bets from the islanders or Arubans either...could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure. They're not based in Belgium so I'm not sure what that's about...I didn't even know Belgium had an anti gambling law...(?) France just passed a doozie, though, and especially the poker sites lined up to get licensed and mostly got their pants taken down by the French gov't. The poker world debate is about whether overall compliance with the strict French laws will help convince US politicians to repeal UIGEA and consider licensing. I think everybody's watching France and Italy right now to see if this kind of heavy taxing works or if it kills the games and drives the casinos away.

I'm pretty sure France completely bans non-poker house games online now. Not positive, but I think poker's the only thing they're licensing for the time being. So Full Tilt and PokerStars ponied up and figured out a way to scrape by here, I guess, but they don't offer any house games.

What I'm mostly curious about is whether Enzo's counting on the WTO rulings on this, or if he's at all worried about other EU countries deporting him out here.

[3Dice]

Hi JStrike,

Website access to the 3Dice website is blocked for noone, but players from various countries including france will receive a message when trying to play at 3Dice. This has been like this for the longest time.

Regards,

Enzo

[vinylweatherman]

Hi JStrike,

Website access to the 3Dice website is blocked for noone, but players from various countries including france will receive a message when trying to play at 3Dice. This has been like this for the longest time.

Regards,

Enzo

So France IS a "banned country", but players will only find out if they try to register (or bother to read the terms first).


Oddly enough, the USA is NOT a "banned country" at 3Dice, so there is an inconsistency here.

Although gambling itself is not considered illegal, processing transactions to & from US players IS illegal in the US, and by accepting the deposits (and paying out), 3Dice ARE breaking the law in the US, just as they would be breaking the law in France by allowing French players to play.

It is a case of operators deciding which laws they obey, and which ones they ignore.

The US is quite capable of "importing" you, remember the case of the "Nat West Three".

[Rhyzz]

I think 3Dice are based in Estepona aren't they? Strange to exclude Belgium, they may have developers based there or something.

Bodog accepts US bets but blocks France too, maybe the fact France is part of Europe holds more water than the US.

[SlotKing]

I think 3Dice are based in Estepona aren't they? Strange to exclude Belgium, they may have developers based there or something.

3Dice IS actually based in Belgium. Their parent company is based in Spain. The casino has (small) land-based counterparts in Antwerp.