Wow, just looked at my history on RTG, 32 straight losing sessions

[blacklabrador]

Yesterday, a poster on this board mentioned something like " I am the guy that lost 152 consecutive sessions on RTG sites" . Soooo, decided to look at my deposits on 2 RTG sites that I won't name. 32 straight deposits of around $60 each and not one cash out. Keep in mind I cash out anytime I hit the $300 mark. I deleted the casinos weeks ago but i had to look at my stats after reading that post from that guy.

I looked further back in the period of may-july and had 11 cashouts totalling close to $4,000. August thru october ZERO cashouts totalling 0 dollars. Must have just been a run of bad luck, eh? So between the other poster and myself, we lost 180 something straight sessions with no cashouts. Hmmm...
Any other reasonable explaination other than them setting their slots so its nearly impossible to win anymore?

 

[just play]

32 straight deposits of around $60 each and not one cash out

That's it, lightweight? Come on, you can catch up to me can't you?

 

[blacklabrador]

That's it, lightweight? Come on, you can catch up to me can't you?

And u continue to deposit on there ? Seriously?

I'd love to get a count from everyone on here of consecutive deposits they have made with no cashouts.

 

[just play]

And u continue to deposit on there ? Seriously?

I'd love to get a count from everyone on here of consecutive deposits they have made with no cashouts.

Nope, not really. Moved onto a casino where I get more playtime and cashouts.

 

[blacklabrador]

Nope, not really. Moved onto a casino where I get more playtime and cashouts.

Good, I hope others follow suit, it's ashame people keep depositing on unfair casinos. I hate seeing people piss away hard earned money when they have pretty much no shot at winning a thing. What casino u on now?

 

[just play]

Good, I hope others follow suit, it's ashame people keep depositing on unfair casinos. I hate seeing people piss away hard earned money when they have pretty much no shot at winning a thing. What casino u on now?

The one that I cashout at.

 

[blacklabrador]

The one that I cashout at.

Seeing that you are a USA player, I am curious, mind PM'ing me if u dont wana post on here? I would like a 2nd choice to Riverbelle for a little changeup once in while.

 

[just play]

I was just messing with ya ...I am playing at High Noon Casino (part of Club World) for some reason this is the ONLY RTG I do well at recently.

 

[blacklabrador]

I was just messing with ya ...I am playing at High Noon Casino (part of Club World) for some reason this is the ONLY RTG I do well at recently.

Um, er.....uh.....*mumble mumble*....... I'm biting my tongue!

 

[just play]

Well then go play at iNetBet and lose all your money.

 

[blacklabrador]

Well then go play at iNetBet and lose all your money.

Thing is i enjoy RTG games but they are just tight as ever. What the hell have u won on recently and what stakes? I deposit $60 and play for .50 a spin then anytime i get it over $100, which doesnt happen anymore, lol. I would play for $1 a spin.

 

[jod5413]

Blacklabrador,

Possibly you should lower your "cash out" goal. Starting out with 50 or 60 bucks, it is a pretty decent return if you can manage to get up to double or triple your deposit.

I understand about wanting to cash out an amount big enough to "feel" like you won. But, I am fairly confident that you and others (including me) just have to keep playing, looking for that big win, and end up losing it all. Yep, it is sweet when you manage to get it, but painful when you got to say $200 and didn't hit the cash out button.

 

[blacklabrador]

Blacklabrador,

Possibly you should lower your "cash out" goal. Starting out with 50 or 60 bucks, it is a pretty decent return if you can manage to get up to double or triple your deposit.

I understand about wanting to cash out an amount big enough to "feel" like you won. But, I am fairly confident that you and others (including me) just have to keep playing, looking for that big win, and end up losing it all. Yep, it is sweet when you manage to get it, but painful when you got to say $200 and didn't hit the cash out button.

Jod, I can honestly say that I probably only got up to $200 once in those 32 deposits, so it wouldnt make a difference if I lowered my cashout goal of $300 to $200. The RTG program is just that tight now, I know gambling is a roller coaster but cmon, not ONE good bonus round in all those deposits? Pffft.

 

[nisosbar]

Not at all a surprise to me. I basically don't deposit at RTG casinos anymore.

I WILL deposit at Club World's casinos, as I trust them, and CM gives them the highest ratings. But I stopped depositing at most RTG's because, like online poker, I eventually realized that you simply can't win.

Although I will say that since learning that RTG has apparently a new policy that new slots will have one RTP setting of 95%, I will give RTG another chance when those slots come out.

 

[blacklabrador]

Not at all a surprise to me. I basically don't deposit at RTG casinos anymore.

I WILL deposit at Club World's casinos, as I trust them, and CM gives them the highest ratings. But I stopped depositing at most RTG's because, like online poker, I eventually realized that you simply can't win.

Although I will say that since learning that RTG has apparently a new policy that new slots will have one RTP setting of 95%, I will give RTG another chance when those slots come out.

I beg to differ about your comment about online poker. If I didnt do so well at it, I wouldnt bother depositing my hard earned money into casinos when I take a break from the tables. I use a small amount of my earnings from poker on the casinos when i feel like it. Maybe you are playing too many multi-tables? I play $50-$200 6 man sit no gos for the last 13 years and have become quite successful. Of course I mix in few multitable touneys when time allows but that dont come until my slow season which is after xmas.

 

[nisosbar]

I beg to differ about your comment about online poker. If I didnt do so well at it, I wouldnt bother depositing my hard earned money into casinos when I take a break from the tables. I use a small amount of my earnings from poker on the casinos when i feel like it. Maybe you are playing too many multi-tables? I play $50-$200 6 man sit no gos for the last 13 years and have become quite successful. Of course I mix in few multitable touneys when time allows but that dont come until my slow season which is after xmas.

I'm glad you've succeeded at it - lots of people would like to, but few do.

I've just seen too much crap. Maybe I'm just superstitious. I DO like Full Tilt's Rush Poker. So addictive, it's like crack, lol.

 

[Mavin1]

Okay, nothing like a decent rant, so I will bring out my protestors again, they've missed being on the forum

 

[colly]

I think slots are tight accross the board not just Inetbet however I have cashed out 3 times in the past 3 weeks at inet- 2 small (50 and under) and 1 big one (4 figures) on a 50 deposit (not a random jackpot either).

Also had cashout at Jackpot capital (and woud have had more if not for greed LOL).

To balance have also had long losing streaks at RTG and Microgaming. I do think that a 300 goal on a 60 deposit is a great thought but a tad too high.

When I feel the slots are tight I adjust my deposits to small 20 - 60- sometimes I win but at least if I lose it doesn't hurt as much.

 

[Smokeycasino]

They are a lil tight but still managed to reach that $300 goal after 6 small deposits.

Now do I cash out or press my luck?

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

RTG

i don't know how many deposits i made, i play at many different casinos, but i went 6 months without cashing out. And yes, like some other i had some nice wins before that. Makes me really think

I did manage to win some after that but it goes as about 1 cashout per months. I don't deposit much anymore prolly will cut even more.

 

[takethemoney]

blacklabrador, your wins put you at over 200% RTP. In my experience the RTG casinos are going to keep drinking your funds, I suspect, until you have deposited enough to get the RTP back in line. Yes, I have made 102 deposits this year with no cashouts. Last year I won over $40,000 on several random jackpots. My suspicions run high, but I have decided to stop depositing. It stinks and I'm simply not going to keep dumping money into them when I have nothing to confirm any chance of gains. I know I will never be able to prove this, but my experience is all the proof I need.

 

[funeral979]

I really dont think 32 straight losing sessions in a row is alot at all. I had a string at Cherry Red about a year ago of 85 straight deposits with no cashout. However, right before that string I had a cashout of $3,000, and when I broke the streak I had a cashout of $3,700. I deposit on average around $40 at RTG's....so I did quite well for myself. You just never know when you are going to turn a minimum deposit into a huge win. It will hit you when you least expect it.

 

[takethemoney]

I really dont think 32 straight losing sessions in a row is alot at all. I had a string at Cherry Red about a year ago of 85 straight deposits with no cashout. However, right before that string I had a cashout of $3,000, and when I broke the streak I had a cashout of $3,700. I deposit on average around $40 at RTG's....so I did quite well for myself. You just never know when you are going to turn a minimum deposit into a huge win. It will hit you when you least expect it.

Are you kidding? I have replaced my online gaming with driving an hour to a land based casino. I never have a losing trip for more than 3/4 visits. It's sad that people have gotten disillusioned enough to think that 32 losses in a row is acceptable casino play. As I too came to realize, these days it's not even gambling anymore, it's merely throwing your money away. What a waste!

 

[rockycatt]

it wouldn't surprise me from a conspiracy theory if all the rtg
empire belongs to the American C I A like to get money from the world for the new order

remember Ollie North and the Contra affair

PS

 

[Mavin1]

I really dont think 32 straight losing sessions in a row is alot at all. I had a string at Cherry Red about a year ago of 85 straight deposits with no cashout. However, right before that string I had a cashout of $3,000, and when I broke the streak I had a cashout of $3,700. I deposit on average around $40 at RTG's....so I did quite well for myself. You just never know when you are going to turn a minimum deposit into a huge win. It will hit you when you least expect it.

This is what makes me wonder about players losses vs wins. Just an opinion, not picking at Funeral at all.

If you have won $3,000, then oddly went into a dry spell of 85 deposits at $40 per, this equals $3,400 of your money spent, then to finally win again, $3,700, then you have only won $300 over the $3,400 spent in.

I have to ask, where is the randomness in this?

It would be interesting to know from others if this is the pattern they are also getting with online gaming. Question is, are players really winning anything at all, or just recouping some or a bit more of their total losses?

 

[rockycatt]

This is what makes me wonder about players losses vs wins. Just an opinion, not picking at Funeral at all.

If you have won $3,000, then oddly went into a dry spell of 85 deposits at $40 per, this equals $3,400 of your money spent, then to finally win again, $3,700, then you have only won $300 over the $3,400 spent in.

I have to ask, where is the randomness in this?

It would be interesting to know from others if this is the pattern they are also getting with online gaming. Question is, are players really winning anything at all, or just recouping some or a bit more of their total losses?

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[nisosbar]

It would be interesting to know from others if this is the pattern they are also getting with online gaming. Question is, are players really winning anything at all, or just recouping some or a bit more of their total losses?

Well as we know, over a long period of time, gambling is a losing proposition for just about every gambler. So if you looked at the right time frame, probably every gambler is 'not really winning', even those who win tens of thousands on progressives or jackpots.

Gambling should be treated as sheer entertainment, not as a means of producing income. So even though you've made 10 straight deposits of $50 each, if you deposit $50 on the 11th time and manage to turn that into $300 or $350, you are likely to cash out and feel like you've won something - when in fact, you've lost over the long-term. But you had fun, even though you lost, so you continue to play. Or at least, that's the theory.

Now is the software written so as to those who win random jackpots or royal flushes, written so as to claw back those winnings over time? Who can say. That seems to be a popular belief.

 

[silcnlayc]

takethemoney" I have replaced my online gaming with driving an hour to a land based casino. I never have a losing trip for more than 3/4 visits. It's sad that people have gotten disillusioned enough to think that 32 losses in a row is acceptable casino play. As I too came to realize, these days it's not even gambling anymore, it's merely throwing your money away. What a waste!

I , too , have given online a wide berth due to the relentless losses at ALL casinos...I still dabble here and there but not in the way as much as I once used to.

When someone says: I made xx-xxx amount of deposits withut a hint of a win ...think about it people, really think about it...I did, I thought about it, and I came to the same realization as TTM above. (Shortened your name, hope you won't be offended).

Playing online and making numerous deposits/losses is so easy to ignore and then to blame everything under the sun is happening and that is why you aren't winning...but if your friend went to a landbased casino 32 times in a row..what would you say to THEM? I mean c'mon, own up to it...NO ONE goes to a casino more than a few times without coming home with money.

I have been doing it since I was legal, over 30 years ago...but once I started playing online, I began to accept more losses. Why? Because I was told this is the normal...well people IT AIN"T normal..no matter how much others want to sugar coat it, including the reps, the casinos and others on this forum...it ISN"T normal to go more than a few deposits at ANY casino..ask yourself again, just what would you have said to this so called friend when they told you they have lost the last 32 times they went to the casino...really think about that...

Because this is what has been shoved down our throats, into our minds by many, that it is NORMAL...well, it ISN"T...My longest deposit of losses at any 1 casino was over 102 deposits at an accredited casino and I was told...it was a bad run...and that is when it slapped me upside my head of how stupid it was to believe something such as this from someone wanting my money..

I mean really...yes, that was the day the lightbulb went off for me..Hopefully many others will start refusing to accept this unnatural occurrence and force these casino back to what was a normal thing and that was a few deposits, a few withdrawals..balancing out..If someone told me that the payout was set at 98%, I would say you are dreaming...because you cannot have a setting such as this with so many losers..and I would have to say "prove it" because I can prove a lot more are losing than winning so where does that leave the 98%...That, my friends is the true joke on us..

I, too have gone back to landbased casinos and have come home with money on my last 3 trips...why? Because now THAT is NORMAL.

Nisobar: Gambling should be treated as sheer entertainment, not as a means of producing income

That's hogwash. You can make a win at gambling. THAT is the ultimate reason we gamble...is to WIN and if you say otherwise, then just send me your money since you are not there to "WIN" and I can "entertain" you a lot better than a casino slot ...

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[aceking123]

hi got to say this is a major pattern for most of us 90% i would say , ive been myself through the big games & big stakes since gaming online which ive done for 10 years + ive even had a break aswell , my biggest losses came with intercasino many years ago & im still aware that i got well & truely stitched up like a kipper from them, even the (lga) which is a waste of time was on there side, if i shown you guys that stats of wagers & deposits which went via that casino whilst i was there it would make most of you sick ,you have to believe what you think is correct , but as i only play with what i can afford to lose, im finding it more interesting, ive had a better year this year than any other year funny that though considering what im reading on the forums of late maybe all those 10s & thousands have linked to me winning some of those funds back or mg have said this guy spends alot , ( we dont know ), ive had some good runs at 3 dice lately but last few deposits gone through like water didnt think it was going to keep up , but thats gambling & thats the software responding to my last month with them ( i think ) the post above sums most of what i think , i only have 4 casinos left one of each of the big software companys ,i tend to do more dabbling , this year at live casinos ( b m ) which i play once a month ive hit 4k (uk) pounds on there slots i have a 1k budget 500 roulette & the rest on slots so far im up 10k , so i understand what people are stating when its comes to xxxxx losses on deposits just doesnt seem to happen at bm casinos unless im just soooooo luckyyy which to be honest im not , i hit the roulette & always period get a game never a question of that , i play roulette online & get slaughtered many many times , very rare that i do win , which simply applies that there is method in what our forum has been saying for a long time , all those people cannot be wrong , im not going to bad mouth the casinos but unless they start listening to there bread & butter punters , theres going to be alot less deposits from them , which WILL come back & bite then very very hard but they do deserve it ( not all of them ) but i do wish all my fellow gamblers out there the best of luck whilst playing online & please dont stop from writing on these boards about softwares & heavy losing streaks .

 

[nisosbar]

That's hogwash. You can make a win at gambling. THAT is the ultimate reason we gamble...is to WIN and if you say otherwise, then just send me your money since you are not there to "WIN" and I can "entertain" you a lot better than a casino slot ...

We don't even disagree, lol.

With the caveat that, you aren't saying that one can make a living at playing slots, are you? Can a player WIN? Yes, of course, most of us have or else we wouldn't play them. Long-term, however, you know what the House Edge is, do you not? And also that, aside from specialty forms of blackjack, all casino games possess a House Edge. Meaning that no matter what game you play, if you play long enough, you will lose your entire balance to the casino.

Just trying to make sure we have the same understanding.

 

[funeral979]

Are you kidding? I have replaced my online gaming with driving an hour to a land based casino. I never have a losing trip for more than 3/4 visits. It's sad that people have gotten disillusioned enough to think that 32 losses in a row is acceptable casino play. As I too came to realize, these days it's not even gambling anymore, it's merely throwing your money away. What a waste!

I understand completely where you are coming from. As a matter of fact I am inclined to believe (to a certain extent) that maybe there is a software-wide RTP setting for RTG (as discussed previously).

I just think its rather difficult to compare losing & winning sessions at land based casinos vs. your sessions at online play. As I stated previously, I have only won a handful of times at land based casinos......but I rarely come home with NOTHING....which is pretty much what you get playing online...when you lose, you lose it ALL.

I suppose that is especially true with those who make larger deposits....if you deposit say $500, and you don't seem to have much luck...would you cashout $250? Or just lose it all trying to break even? I am really curious about that. I mean, I would never cashout less than my original deposit. I will just keep going until I lose every penny....but how many people do that when going to land based casinos? You are likely to bring SOMETHING back.

But anyway....I still don't think that 32, or even 50 straight losing deposits is alot. Just as you could spin Scary Rich 32 times and not get your original bet back....but hit a large bonus round next spin. You just never know.

You have had 102 straight losing sessions, I have had 85, the OP had 32....you hit, what was it, 3 randoms within a week or so? i have hit 3 in 8 years...silc hasn't hit one in 10 years I believe?....I cashed out 4 straight times (and the only 4 deposits I ever made) at Aladdins Gold. Sounds all random to me

 

[silcnlayc]

nisosbar:We don't even disagree, lol.

With the caveat that, you aren't saying that one can make a living at playing slots, are you? Can a player WIN? Yes, of course, most of us have or else we wouldn't play them. Long-term, however, you know what the House Edge is, do you not? And also that, aside from specialty forms of blackjack, all casino games possess a House Edge. Meaning that no matter what game you play, if you play long enough, you will lose your entire balance to the casino.

Just trying to make sure we have the same understanding.

Not at all, what you say is the same as I...except for one thing...the "key" thing...and that is the words you wrote

Long-term

. Long term, we all end up a loser...short term as these casinos are online, you ARE the loser I have found for there is no Long-term for them. It is all short term. So, ...why is it different here than live play? Because it is not as kosher as we are led to believe IMO. I usually deposited the same as I would going to a landbased and have found that there is no comparison. Why, because these casinos are not running a casino, but a cash cow and we are the cows that run to give up our cash without a return.

funeral979: I just think its rather difficult to compare losing & winning sessions at land based casinos vs. your sessions at online play. As I stated previously, I have only won a handful of times at land based casinos......but I rarely come home with NOTHING....which is pretty much what you get playing online...when you lose, you lose it ALL.

I suppose that is especially true with those who make larger deposits....if you deposit say $500, and you don't seem to have much luck...would you cashout $250? Or just lose it all trying to break even? I am really curious about that. I mean, I would never cashout less than my original deposit. I will just keep going until I lose every penny....but how many people do that when going to land based casinos? You are likely to bring SOMETHING back.

But anyway....I still don't think that 32, or even 50 straight losing deposits is alot. Just as you could spin Scary Rich 32 times and not get your original bet back....but hit a large bonus round next spin. You just never know.

You have had 102 straight losing sessions, I have had 85, the OP had 32....you hit, what was it, 3 randoms within a week or so? i have hit 3 in 8 years...silc hasn't hit one in 10 years I believe?....I cashed out 4 straight times (and the only 4 deposits I ever made) at Aladdins Gold. Sounds all random to me

I always start with the same amount in deposits on landbased or online. I come home 99% of the time with monies sometimes a lot more than I went with. You ask who walks away with less than they started with. Well, I do. I figure there is always "next time" unlike online, there never is a next time...anymore.

Randoms? I still hold to this day that the old timers will not win a random because they know we are already players. It has been since 1996 I believe and I have NEVER hit one in fun mode either...think about that. Where is the randomness if one doesn't even catch a random in fun play in 12-14 years and have played for hours EVERDAY for all those years? No, I do not need to be slapped upside the head any harder than I allowed these casinos to do me already. Newbies will always win a random if not in multiples (1 year or less in playing). Because the casinos need to show it can be done for a pittance...when in reality, they already have scoped out the play pattern for everyone and know who should be the one to receive the alloted random.

This has always been in my mind about online casino about the picking and choosing who wins and who doesn't and it hit home the hardest to me when I was in Dover Downs last weekend (I even brought home money too!) I was playing on a slot and I always use my card....the place was packed and I was in the middle of a bank of slots with lots of people milling around me...and all of a sudden I heard my name being called behind me...It was a young lady I have never met...she introduced herself and said she was my new casino hostess...I mean I almost fell out of my chair...the look must have been comical cause she chuckled and said all was ok and not to worry, she just wanted to introduce herself.

Well, that is NOT the reason I almost fell of my chair, it was because here I am thinking "HOW THE DEVIL DID SHE KNOW WHO I WAS AND HOW DID SHE FIND ME?" with all these thousands of other players...She never told me how....just handed me her cards and said please call her at anytime (even put her cell phone on it) anytime I wanted something "special.

So, if a casino rep can find me in all those masses of bodies...what do you think these casinos can do? I mean, really.....it is not rocket science. They KNOW how everyone plays and they choose those that get the "STAR" by their names for large wins...I do not get a star because they KNOW I do like cashing out...JMO...

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[jod5413]

Ok, People. I have a question. I hear what you are saying about cashing out at B&M casinos vs on line casinos. My question is this....

Do you go to B&M casinos every day? Or once a month? And losing so much to on line casinos, do you play every day or twice a week or?

I am quite certain that if you went to your B&M casinos every day, over and over, you would not win all that often. Just like on line casinos, you would lose more often than you win.

Just my thoughts.

 

[funeral979]

Silc, have you really not hit one in fun mode? They are actually pretty easy if you give yourself about a half an hour or so. I was just screwing around one night and hit about 7 or 8 in one nite. Just put it in turbo mode and fire away at $100. Maybe if you hit one in fun mode it will open the floodgates for you

 

[silcnlayc]

funeral979: Silc, have you really not hit one in fun mode?

Nope, not even in fun mode...I have played many tournies spinning away at $100 pop and still nothing...I play in fun mode the majority of the time anymore and still none...so...please tell me....as my husband says.....do they got my star blocked out or what? ....lol..he has hit a few both in fun and real..but me ...not yet...sad to say....

jod5413 Ok, People. I have a question. I hear what you are saying about cashing out at B&M casinos vs on line casinos. My question is this....

Do you go to B&M casinos every day? Or once a month? And losing so much to on line casinos, do you play every day or twice a week or?

I am quite certain that if you went to your B&M casinos every day, over and over, you would not win all that often. Just like on line casinos, you would lose more often than you win.

Just my thoughts.

I have been averaging 2 times a month since I gave up the majority of online gaming....and have been very fortunate the last 3 times...unlike the 102+/- deposits I made at one accredited casino here...and that is NOT the only casino I was over 50 deposits at without a sniff of a win...so...I guess I am on their "do not win" list as many others are nowadays...because we all cannot be losing unless something is very, very wrong, wouldn't you say? When I say losing, I mean continuous deposits before a small meager win .....that to me is not normal....JMO again...

When I decided to look at my stats, it really woke me up...many are still in denial, and I say check your stats and you will be like me, almost floored by what you actually see has happened and it isn't good. There is no up anymore, it is all down....unlike a few years ago...there was a balance...not anymore..

So, I am glad I got hit by a mack truck and finally woke up..I really am.. I would love to play online again as I used to , which was daily but it costs way too much for such a short glimpse of enjoyment anymore...Even my poor hubby has stopped playing daily....he only plays once or twice a week anymore and he has hit those randoms (one in real and one in fun)! Geez....

I would like to mention that I have hit a few Rapid Fire jackpots at Intercasino when the USA was able to play. I would hit a minimum of 1 a week there and that is why I feel something is just not right with the randoms. Call it what you will , but even the minor/major jackpots were supposed to go off like Inters Rapid fire we were told and guess what...they don't...again another lie...fed to us...they are just as bad as the randoms...

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