Strange Request From Tropica

[all4greed]

I have made 11 withdrawals since April and have a current withdrawal pending of $30 from comps. For some bizarre reason, Tropica is requiring all docs again plus my initials next to each EWalletExpress deposit made since April.

Anyone had a request like this?


We require that you certify your purchases at THE CASINO. Please sign beside each transaction.

Transaction Date Amount Method Initial
2656905xxx [05 Nov 2010] $ 40.00 eWalletXpress __________

2634352xxx [30 Oct 2010] $ 50.00 eWalletXpress __________

2620173xxx [26 Oct 2010] $ 50.00 eWalletXpress __________

2571508xxx [14 Oct 2010] $ 25.00 eWalletXpress __________

2555132xxx [10 Oct 2010] $ 25.00 eWalletXpress __________

[Jasminebed]

I no longer play Rivals as a banned Canadian, but it sounds a little like stalling. It's hard to believe they'd want to stall for $30, but maybe they want to review you actually withdrawing 11 times.

Sometimes it seems to me that Rival does not have faith in the randomness of it's games.

I think I'm getting cynical. It's probably nothing more than some syndicate having found some way to exploit entropay, and they just want to cross their T's and dot their I's.

Anyway it slices, you'll have to comply for your $30.

[anniemac]

Yep, but not in the last year.

Use to have to do that at the older Rivals, Pantasia etc., each time you made a withdrawal request.

[vinylweatherman]

I have had this request for credit card deposits from various casinos. Their form is easier though, you have to sign ONCE at the bottom of a list of deposits to verify that you authorised them. It seems they are treating eWalletExpress as though it is a credit card. I believe casinos have suffered chargebacks from eWalletExpress where the deposits to eWalletExpress have not gone through. Since this is mostly down to UIGEA, rather than the players issuing chargebacks, these requirements are not going to help much. In such cases, the player HAS authorised the transactions, but their BANKS have not, which only comes to light during "clearing", by which time the money has already gone to the casino, and been played.

It does seem odd that they make such a song and dance over $30, but I have suffered similar from Prime Casino. They paid me over £6000 one week, and a couple of weeks later I cashed in my comps and worked them up to £500, and withdrew. They made one HELL of a song and dance over this, and told me I was "under investigation". For this load of bullshit, they got uninstalled and threatened with an eCogra complaint as soon as their "investigation" reached 14 days. They paid the following day However, they remain uninstalled, as do the rest of the Palace Group (who decided to play "sour grapes" with me over the affair by throwing me out of the VIP lounge at Ruby Fortune, and forgetting my birthday and Christmas). THEY now have to make the first move, or they stay uninstalled - there are plenty of other MGS casinos, just as there are plenty of other Rival casinos.

[NASHVEGAS]

I have had this request for credit card deposits from various casinos. Their form is easier though, you have to sign ONCE at the bottom of a list of deposits to verify that you authorised them. It seems they are treating eWalletExpress as though it is a credit card. I believe casinos have suffered chargebacks from eWalletExpress where the deposits to eWalletExpress have not gone through. Since this is mostly down to UIGEA, rather than the players issuing chargebacks, these requirements are not going to help much. In such cases, the player HAS authorised the transactions, but their BANKS have not, which only comes to light during "clearing", by which time the money has already gone to the casino, and been played.

It does seem odd that they make such a song and dance over $30, but I have suffered similar from Prime Casino. They paid me over £6000 one week, and a couple of weeks later I cashed in my comps and worked them up to £500, and withdrew. They made one HELL of a song and dance over this, and told me I was "under investigation". For this load of bullshit, they got uninstalled and threatened with an eCogra complaint as soon as their "investigation" reached 14 days. They paid the following day However, they remain uninstalled, as do the rest of the Palace Group (who decided to play "sour grapes" with me over the affair by throwing me out of the VIP lounge at Ruby Fortune, and forgetting my birthday and Christmas). THEY now have to make the first move, or they stay uninstalled - there are plenty of other MGS casinos, just as there are plenty of other Rival casinos.

Opened some new bank accounts (checking) recently and the boilerplate documents for both personal (??) and commercial accounts included exclusive sections for UIGEA. It is being enforced as you state but obviously selectively and randomly per se!

Two specifics of interest, (1). It was my first experience encountering anyone on the banking frontlines aka branch level that was even aware of UIGEA as I once again made an inquiry in regards. In the recent past, even branch managers in my prior experiences had no clue of UIGEA upon my initial inquiry. However now to the contrary, this non-management employee whom opened the subject accounts was not only aware of UIGEA but somewhat knowledgeable of UIGEA. (2). The boilerplate language (in the new checking account(s) documents I was provided) pursuant to UIGEA does specifically state these exact words, "in unlawful Internet gambling". Hard to decipher the exact connotation imo per the mentioned section. If there is interest, I could post the entire (but brief) UIGEA specific language from the subject documents for one's perusal.

[BingoT]

I got one too
I put my initials in the __________ and off it went.
And got paid after I did a cashout

We require that you certify your purchases at THE CASINO. Please sign beside each transaction.
Transaction Date Amount Method Initial
264340xxxx [01 Nov 2010] $ 30.00 QuickTender __________

126947xxxx [13 Nov 2009] $ 25.00 QuickTender __________

[all4greed]

I got one too

Thanks. Glad I'm not the only one. No payment yet but it's interesting they chose this little withdrawal.

[oldtrvlagt]

Hey, I would just be happy with 11 withdrawals...I've had 1 (one) in 11 months

[vinylweatherman]

Is it random, or has something happened recently (something that scared them) that has made them send this form to all players still actively funding their accounts?

If this is merely a new routine, "no hard feelings", sign and send it. It just confirms you made the deposits, and if you did, no problem.

[anniemac]

Slotocash doesn't do this or at least when I cashed last week, they didn't.

This is not new though cause I had to do it at the older Rivals when I first started playing. I just thought they had done away with this process.